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    Hall of Fame vote

    Biggio is the only one in this years class that should get in.......And even Biggio is a question mark because he stayed around too long IMO...

    Either the Ped users all get in or they don't.....

    Yes Clemens and Bonds would easily get in if they were 100 clean, but there is too much evidence out that blackballs them.....

    And forget Raffy and that fraud Sosa! Never!
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    Biggio got 68.2% of the vote, nobody got in.......the last time this happened was Derek Jeter's rookie year in 1996. Piazza got 57.8 % with Jack Morris getting 67%.

    Bonds and Clemens got around 36% of the vote....2 of the best players in the game ever!


    The writers have spoken!
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    Amazing that Piazza, the best offensive catcher of all time, did not get into the Hall of Fame based on pure speculation of steroid use and no hard evidence. These writers are a ****ing joke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Clipper View Post
    Amazing that Piazza, the best offensive catcher of all time, did not get into the Hall of Fame based on pure speculation of steroid use and no hard evidence. These writers are a ****ing joke.
    Suspicion killed Piazza's chances for his 1st year of eligibility....I believe the writers will wait for a few years with Piazza to see if any evidence comes out.....Piazza will get in within 3 years....

    I believe the writers are scared to put someone in and then years later evidence comes out saying they were on PEDs and then they look bad for putting a known user in.....

    Bonds and Clemens will eventually get in but not until years 10-15....
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Suspicion killed Piazza's chances for his 1st year of eligibility....I believe the writers will wait for a few year with Piazza to see if any evidence comes out.....

    I believe the writers are scared to put someone in and then years later evidence comes out saying they were on PEDs and then they look bad for putting a known user in.....

    Bonds and Clemens will eventually get in but not until years 10-15....
    The problem is this is going to create a log jam of eligible players in the upcoming years and could prevent other deserving players from getting in.

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    Happy to see Bonds and Clemens weren't even close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Clipper View Post
    The problem is this is going to create a log jam of eligible players in the upcoming years and could prevent other deserving players from getting in.

    I agree, wait until next years ballot.....Maddox, Glavine,ect....

    But this goes back to The Players Association.....They wanted the issued ignored and now their players are getting hammered for it....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Clipper View Post
    The problem is this is going to create a log jam of eligible players in the upcoming years and could prevent other deserving players from getting in.
    Especially Jack Morris.....he had a high ERA but I still think he sneaks in next year, his last year....


    After looking at his stats I fully agree with you....he will probably get 68% next year as well..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rrzubnyy View Post
    Especially Jack Morris.....he had a high ERA but I still think he sneaks in next year, his last year....
    Jack Morris does not deserve to be in the Hall of Fame.

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    Mattingly got 13.2 and Bernie Williams got just 3.3% of the vote....

    If Bernie is not a Hall of Famer then why are votes wasted on him?


    I think they should raise the standards with 90% of the vote instead of 75%....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Clipper View Post
    Amazing that Piazza, the best offensive catcher of all time, did not get into the Hall of Fame based on pure speculation of steroid use and no hard evidence. These writers are a ****ing joke.
    What about Bagwell. Same deal, he's being punished because he "looks" like he used PEDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylinkus View Post
    What about Bagwell. Same deal, he's being punished because he "looks" like he used PEDs.
    Him too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rylinkus View Post
    What about Bagwell. Same deal, he's being punished because he "looks" like he used PEDs.
    Bags hit 449 HR and around 2300 hits, not Hall of Fame worthy.....Very high Standards must be followed.....
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    Clemens has no shot. Even if he were completely exonerated of the PED scandal the Mindy McReady scandal will haunt him forever.


    And so, a new era begins.....

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    piazza, bagwell and biggio all should have gotten in
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