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  1. #16
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    His feud with Cena showed he should be the top heel in the company to me. He has all the tools to be one of the top guys in the company. He is the best in ring worker in wrestling right now in my eyes bar none.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbellz3o8 View Post
    He is the best in ring worker in wrestling right now in my eyes bar none.
    He's great, he sells so well. But over Bryan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SACNYY View Post
    He's great, he sells so well. But over Bryan?
    Him and Bryan 1a-1b to me. But pure wrestling I take Ziggler.. Ziggler is basically what Punk is to you for me so....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbellz3o8 View Post
    Him and Bryan 1a-1b to me. But pure wrestling I take Ziggler.. Ziggler is basically what Punk is to you for me so....lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mbellz3o8 View Post
    Him and Bryan 1a-1b to me. But pure wrestling I take Ziggler.. Ziggler is basically what Punk is to you for me so....lol
    A better PURE wrestler than Bryan....i gotta LMAO at that

    Bryan is WWEs best wrestler...Dont wanna knock Dolph, hes great. But ill take Bryan over Ziggler any day in the ring

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nighthawk View Post
    A better PURE wrestler than Bryan....i gotta LMAO at that

    Bryan is WWEs best wrestler...Dont wanna knock Dolph, hes great. But ill take Bryan over Ziggler any day in the ring
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    Never seen the infactuation with bryan in the ring... He doesn't do anything that most small guys like cm, ziggler, kidd, etc. Can't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seguin View Post
    Never seen the infactuation with bryan in the ring... He doesn't do anything that most small guys like cm, ziggler, kidd, etc. Can't.
    Have you watched any of his matches in ROH? He's a submission wizard.

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    Ziggler is not better than Bryan in the ring. Ziggler is the best seller in the company no question, but he's not a better overall wrestler. There's nothing to really back that statement up. He doesn't have the technical prowess that Bryan has, and Bryan can connect with the crowd more in his match. Ziggler might be able to put over wrestlers in the ring better, but he's not better than Bryan. Ziggler also doesn't have the match resume to put him in Bryan's company.

    But I don't think Ziggler is missing anything. He has the look, no doubt. He has the skill, no doubt. He has the passion, no doubt. He has the charisma and mic skills, no doubt. And he has that IT factor.

    I think the only thing missing is that the IWC saw this over a year ago, and they probably think he's been stagnant over the past year because he hasn't been elevated much higher. He's had the MITB, but his storylines haven't been much more than that. But that's on the IWC, not Ziggler or the WWE. WWE is just taking their time with him because they know they what they have in him.

    He's been a heel forever. And as far as I remember, he's never been a face. He's over quite a bit for a guy that's been nothing but a heel and hasn't had a huge storyline. It's hard to hate someone you've never loved.

    They key is how far he can get over as a face, when he turns.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanyo View Post
    They push guys like Del RIo and Sheamus who NO ONE wants to see and yet they drop the ball on guys like Ziggler or even Daniel Bryan.
    Del Rio and Sheamus draw pretty big, and they haven't dropped the ball on Bryan or Ziggler.

    Patience, my friend.

    That's like saying they dropped the ball on Edge for his first 6-8-however many years in the company.

    They know what they have in both Bryan and Ziggler. They consistently put them in strong enough situations. They know what they have in them. They're biding their time.

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    This past RAW is exactly why Ziggler can't break through if you saw it.

    Hits a superkick, only two count. You hit a finisher, you need to get a pin. Or at the very least, show you can kick out someone else's finisher.

    He's not there yet apparently.

    He woulda been ****ed in Washington...
    Update: Turns out he was ****ed in Kansas City too

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    He just doesn't have that it factor. Hbk was a presence dolph doesn't have that he has all the tools except the it






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    Bryan is the best wrestler in the world according to some people and sites I've read. I haven't seen a lot of Kurt angle the last 6 months or so but he is the best wrestler I've ever seen.

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    Unless your higher than cena in wwes eyes you don't really beat cena clean if at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankeefan54 View Post
    Unless your higher than cena in wwes eyes you don't really beat cena clean if at all.
    Pretty much. Only time I can think of when Cena lost clean was to the Rock. I can't remember any other time in the last few years.

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