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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    2003 doesn't cut it. 4 INT's in 3 games is too much. And Yeah 2009 was decent, but he lost the super bowl. Dominant super bowl run is 2010 Aaron Rodgers. Put up the stats and win the trophy.
    What about the fact that Rodgets got completely bailed out against the Bears? Or is 56.7% 0TD 2INT 244 yards and a 55QB Rating now considered dominant? Yeah, he was great the other games, but he didnt dominate the whole postseason that year. He was COMPLETELY bailed out by the rest of his team that game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doogolas View Post
    What about the fact that Rodgets got completely bailed out against the Bears? Or is 56.7% 0TD 2INT 244 yards and a 55QB Rating now considered dominant? Yeah, he was great the other games, but he didnt dominate the whole postseason that year. He was COMPLETELY bailed out by the rest of his team that game.
    Well he ran for a Touchdown and didn't need to turn it on. Cutler went out with injury. You play to win and when Cutler basically forfeits the game it's not necessary to light it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    Yeah, but lets be real if you have 5 MVP's and then you have yet to assemble a single dominant run in the playoffs in 14 years. That's a problem.
    most of his colts teams did not play defense (the one that did won the superbowl). how's that mannings problem?
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    His legacy is already set. He's one of the greatest QBs to ever play. Doesn't matter what happens from here on out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigBlueCrew View Post
    It means everything. Peyton Manning can go down as the greatest regular season QB ever. Oooooorrrrrrr he can actually step up in the postseason and win another superbowl. You can only blame the Colts organization (the OL/WR/RB) so many times.
    the colts defense was horrbile 90% of the time manning was there. when you only play half the game, i think a good deal can be put on the colts
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    the colts defense was horrbile 90% of the time manning was there. when you only play half the game, i think a good deal can be put on the colts
    peyton is no eli.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    We all know the story of Peyton Manning's postseason endeavors. There are basically 3 ways to go about it. You can blame the team and say Manning has been victimized. You can say that Manning has let the team down. Or you could say it's a combo of the 2.

    I fall under the combo part, but I lean strongly towards Manning has choked camp. Let's not forget this man had maybe the all time worst super bowl run win 2006. It's not as if he got over the hump to finally win the big one. He was basically pushed over the top by his defense/team.

    I'm not gonna say that Eli is better than Peyton, but his run in the playoffs have been better. Right now Aaron Rodgers is a better QB than Peyton ever was. And that's almost entirely founded upon getting it done in the playoffs.

    Despite the fact that he is about to win his 5th MVP when he was yet again outplayed by another QB it's the playoffs where legacy is solidified.

    It was a great story for Manning to come back and play dominantly. He just MUST beat the Ravens. He can't go 1 and done. And then once/if he gets past them Brady will be waiting for him in the AFC Championship.

    If Manning were to win a 2nd ring and finally win one through an actual dominant postseason run I'd consider putting him in the Brady, Montana, Unitas tier. That's a tall order to ask, but he's dug himself in that hole with basically going 14 years without a dominant postseason run.

    So what do you think? How critical is this run for Manning?
    you my friend are clueless and really shouldnt rate QBs

    There is a good chance (pending this years vote) Peyton will be a 5, thats FIVE time MVP-the most of any player ever

    he is already ahead of brady and its not even close, people like you put too much empahsis on QBs winning super bowls, eli has 2 and isnt even in the same school let alone class as peyton

    if he wins great, if not guess what he will still be a top 2-3 QB of all time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    Well he ran for a Touchdown and didn't need to turn it on. Cutler went out with injury. You play to win and when Cutler basically forfeits the game it's not necessary to light it up.
    Cutler tore an MCL that's not quitting. He tried coming out in the second half, he couldn't throw. Lovie took him out.

    Secondly, by that logic, Peyton didn't need to 'turn it on' in 06. That logic is completely absurd. A dominant playoffs means dominant in EVERY GAME. Being bailed out is being bailed out, period. There is no two ways about it.

    And then. He made them pancakes.

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    delete. oops.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fired-Up View Post
    Well he ran for a Touchdown and didn't need to turn it on. Cutler went out with injury. You play to win and when Cutler basically forfeits the game it's not necessary to light it up.
    Quote Originally Posted by NYMETS2889 View Post
    you my friend are clueless and really shouldnt rate QBs

    There is a good chance (pending this years vote) Peyton will be a 5, thats FIVE time MVP-the most of any player ever

    he is already ahead of brady and its not even close, people like you put too much empahsis on QBs winning super bowls, eli has 2 and isnt even in the same school let alone class as peyton

    if he wins great, if not guess what he will still be a top 2-3 QB of all time
    Not to mention Brady hasn't won a Super Bowl since becoming truly elite. He won it when he game managed and had amazing defenses. He played well in some playoff games, don't get me wrong, but he was not yet elite when he won his 3 rings.

    And then. He made them pancakes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by surf and turf View Post
    As far as im concerned his legacy was already maxed out. This was a good team with Tim Teebow at QB so barring any questions about his health this shouldnt have surprised anyone too much
    Tebow didn't have a healthy DeMaryius Thomas or Eric Decker most of the time he played either. If Tim was still QBing that team this year they wouldn't be any worse. Payments Manning showed up in the right place at the right time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FortDetroit View Post
    peyton is no eli.
    eli has had a good defense on his side most of his time in new york. henc ewhy eli has 2 rings and peyton has 1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Doogolas View Post
    What about the fact that Rodgets got completely bailed out against the Bears? Or is 56.7% 0TD 2INT 244 yards and a 55QB Rating now considered dominant? Yeah, he was great the other games, but he didnt dominate the whole postseason that year. He was COMPLETELY bailed out by the rest of his team that game.
    Quote Originally Posted by Pinstripe power View Post
    most of his colts teams did not play defense (the one that did won the superbowl). how's that mannings problem?
    Quote Originally Posted by FortDetroit View Post
    His legacy is already set. He's one of the greatest QBs to ever play. Doesn't matter what happens from here on out.
    Quote Originally Posted by NYMETS2889 View Post
    you my friend are clueless and really shouldnt rate QBs

    There is a good chance (pending this years vote) Peyton will be a 5, thats FIVE time MVP-the most of any player ever

    he is already ahead of brady and its not even close, people like you put too much empahsis on QBs winning super bowls, eli has 2 and isnt even in the same school let alone class as peyton

    if he wins great, if not guess what he will still be a top 2-3 QB of all time
    Quote Originally Posted by Doogolas View Post
    Cutler tore an MCL that's not quitting. He tried coming out in the second half, he couldn't throw. Lovie took him out.

    Secondly, by that logic, Peyton didn't need to 'turn it on' in 06. That logic is completely absurd. A dominant playoffs means dominant in EVERY GAME. Being bailed out is being bailed out, period. There is no two ways about it.


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    Don't forget, New England did a whole bunch of heavy lifting for Indy back in '06 when they knocked off #1 seed San Diego. I'd give the Colts about a 10% chance of beating that Charger team with that running game (LT, Michael Turner, Sproles) out in San Diego in the AFCCG. Without that, Manning might well have zero rings.
    As it is, he threw 3 TD's and 7 picks in that postseason.
    He also has that "Tracy Porter" moment that I'm sure he's not too crazy about. A pick 6 of all things, at the most crucial time, on football's biggest stage?
    HUGE fail.

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    this was a bad thread then it went to terrible when fired up said well rodgers didnt have to tear it up. WHAT AN IDIOT... get off rodgers nuts and stop being a homer.


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