Any chance Chipper Jones rethinks his retirement and tests the free agent market?
I'd love to get him even at 40 and playing 120 games a year. He and Bourne would actually make the lineup somewhat interesting
As for how much we have left, we spent 1.5 on JCP, .700k on DeLaRosa, and 100k on a guy and 80k on another. Can't remember their names. So, we've got 520k, plus an overage of 145k, for a total of 665k left. Supposedly, we were about to sign a pitcher that had been dropped from KC for 450k, but he was killed at a bar the night before he was supposed to sign.
My problem with Diaz is simple: If he's not an elite guy, why would he sign with the Cubs? Assuming the money is the same or close anyway. If he's a legit SS, he's looking at us as the org with probably the deepest crop of SS in all of baseball and not nearly as good of a chance as he'd get with other orgs.
I'm still skeptical on JoeyB. Along with Darvish, he's also missed on a few draft picks (obviously got more right than wrong, but I don't think it's that hard when you know how much we are emphasizing it). I feel like he was off on Cespedes as well, though I may be making that up. I'd be lenient with him on some of the stuff if he didn't post things as absolute fact when he could word it like it's a rumor.
Not that I particularly care for him to stop posting...the more rumors the better.
Bourn is worth a 2nd rounder. at the right contract... a max of 4/60 for me
Headly isnt going anywhere stop that dream.
Edit: im a Vikes fan.... Webb
Next, let’s calculate Bourn’s projected value over the next four or five years. Bourn is projected to be worth about 4.2 to 4.3 WAR in 2013, but he’s coming off a career year (6.4), so we’ll give him a slight bump to 4.5 in 2013. From there, players tend to decline about 0.5 WAR per year once they’ve entered their decline phase (this is a really rough gauge, folks), so we can project that he’s worth 4.5 wins in 2013, 4 wins in 2014, 3.5 wins in 2015, 3.0 wins in 2016, and 2.5 wins in 2017.
Again, using that $5.5 million per win figure, that makes Bourn worth $24.75 million in 2013, $22 million in 2014, $19.25 million in 2015, $16.5 million in 2016, and $13.75 million in 2017. That totals $96.25 million over five years (and you start to see why Bourn reportedly sought a five year, $100 million contract at the start of the Winter). That’s probably on the generous
So, how does the value of the lost pick impact what Bourn could expect to receive from a team like the Cubs?
If Bourn is worth $96.25 million on a five-year deal (or $82.5 million on a four-year deal), that means he should expect a contract from a team giving up the number 40/41/42 draft pick (“worth” $19.25 million) no higher than five years and $77 million or four years and $63.25 million.
This exercise makes me feel pretty good about my from-the-hip cap on what I’d like to see the Cubs offer (if they’re going to make an offer at all, something about which I’m relatively ambivalent). I said I’d want the Cubs to go no higher than four years and $50 to $60 million, and now I’ll stand by that. I wouldn’t want the Cubs to sign Bourn unless they were getting some surplus value on paper, and a four-year deal in that range would do it.
And they might be able to pull it off – remember, the Cubs’ lost pick (number 40/41/42) is worth a whole lot less than a pick in the first round, which, for a team with an unprotected first round pick, thus “subtracts” a more sizable chunk from the theoretical contract that team should be willing to offer Bourn.
This is all theoretical. Teams have a great many factors to consider when piecing together a roster. It isn’t all just dollars, or worse, flimsy projections of value.
first of all you plagiarized that from brett...
2nd it doesnt support ur 4/40 for bourn...
3rdly i dont know why i ever respond to you.
If you pay almost $20 million for a player who gives you 3.5 WAR in his career, you didn't do very well on that deal. Low-WAR players should give you a way better $/WAR rate than good players.
So did we disagree or not? You said 4/40 at first, but now it's 4/50 to 4/60? If you're willing to do 4/60 then we're on exactly the same page. 4/40 on the other hand was completely unrealistic.
Thoughts are the shadows of our feelings - always darker, emptier and simpler.
notice how i credit the original author...
i thought you could relate to the empty and simple part regarding thought.