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  1. 01-09-2013, 09:41 AM #181
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    I believe the NY Times reported the returns were 11%, not 18%. Regardless, every year we see teams with mid-range payrolls in the playoffs. Spending is not The Answer. Good scouting and smart spending are The Answers. It is proven each year.
    Spending by itself indeed is not the answer. The Mets themselves taught as that in 1992-3 and consistently throughout the early 2000s.

    But neither is stocking your team with players from the thrift store. At some point, you gotta spend money to win.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    Spending by itself indeed is not the answer. The Mets themselves taught as that in 1992-3 and consistently throughout the early 2000s.

    But neither is stocking your team with players from the thrift store. At some point, you gotta spend money to win.
    No you don't.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayamtion View Post
    No you don't.
    Ok.

    But you certainly increase your chances.


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    Quote Originally Posted by clayamtion View Post
    No you don't.
    Show the last team to win the WS entirely with home-grown talent.




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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    Ok.

    But you certainly increase your chances.
    You were right first time FOC. Don't be subdued by baseball communism.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    Show the last team to win the WS entirely with home-grown talent.
    Not entirely, but the Giants won twice with mostly home-grown pieces.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    Show the last team to win the WS entirely with home-grown talent.
    I can show you dozens and dozens of teams who spent a fortune in in the offseason only to fail to reach .500. You would have had a great time last year as a Florida Marlin fan huh? I bet it would be amusing task to dig up old posts with your opinions of their moves last offseason.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    Show the last team to win the WS entirely with home-grown talent.
    Does anyone expect this team to win a WS with just home grown players?

    You would have to find a pretty naive Met fan to believe that's possible.

    But a good foundation with your own guys is still an important part of winning.

    Ideally i hope this team can turn into the Texas Rangers (it's a longshot obviously) but i would love to have a farm system with that type of depth and the ability to add FA or significant payroll via trade.

    Does it happen? We'll see.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    Because of course I'm not referring to right now.
    "Cyclical" and "doing this for years"

    you are not talking about right now.
    meet the mets
    beat the mets
    head to the park, defeat the mets
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman View Post
    "Cyclical" and "doing this for years"

    you are not talking about right now.
    I am talking about right now...




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    Quote Originally Posted by metswon69 View Post
    Does anyone expect this team to win a WS with just home grown players?

    You would have to find a pretty naive Met fan to believe that's possible.

    But a good foundation with your own guys is still an important part of winning.

    Ideally i hope this team can turn into the Texas Rangers (it's a longshot obviously) but i would love to have a farm system with that type of depth and the ability to add FA or significant payroll via trade.

    Does it happen? We'll see.

    Go back and read clay's answer to FOC.




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    Quote Originally Posted by numbers-king View Post
    I can show you dozens and dozens of teams who spent a fortune in in the offseason only to fail to reach .500. You would have had a great time last year as a Florida Marlin fan huh? I bet it would be amusing task to dig up old posts with your opinions of their moves last offseason.

    Considering there's only one WS winner and (until recently 8 playoff spots) that's hardly a surprise, in fact it's bound to happen...




    And "ultimately," Alderson said, "we're judged on whether we win or lose."


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    Quote Originally Posted by YoungStuna28 View Post
    Not entirely, but the Giants won twice with mostly home-grown pieces.

    Clay said you don't need to spend top win - at all.




    And "ultimately," Alderson said, "we're judged on whether we win or lose."


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    Quote:
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    Spending by itself indeed is not the answer. The Mets themselves taught as that in 1992-3 and consistently throughout the early 2000s.

    But neither is stocking your team with players from the thrift store. At some point, you gotta spend money to win.

    No you don't.



    >>>There you go clay's response to FOC. It's bolded so you don't miss it.

    And everyone is getting on me...




    And "ultimately," Alderson said, "we're judged on whether we win or lose."


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    Nvm...
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