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    Mets may now be able to afford a Major League Player...

    The owners of the Mets have scored some financial relief.

    After a months-long process, team owners Fred Wilpon and Saul Katz have refinanced $450 million in loans borrowed against cable network SportsNet New York, which airs Mets games, The Post has learned.

    While the financial terms could not be learned, some of the proceeds are expected to go toward funding the cash-strapped teamís day-to-day operations.
    http://www.nypost.com/p/news/busines...aSjb5trNWTNwTP

    Scott Hairston, here we come.
    "We're snakebitten, baby." --Fred Wilpon

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    Good news.

    It should provide ownership with greater stability by eliminating any massive payments due in the near future (Adam Rubin).

    Fans should accept the idea that the Wilpons and Katz are not going to sell the team, and any news that helps ownership maintain liquidity and cash flow is good news.
    Last edited by Dugmet; 01-03-2013 at 10:09 AM.
    "The 90 wins is about challenge. It's about changing the conversation. It's about framing questions for ourselves as to how we get there. So I stand by the notion that we need to get better, and in doing so we need to set concrete goals for ourselves so that we have sort of specific conversations among ourselves about how we're going to get there." -- Mr. Alderson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    Good news.

    It should provide ownership with greater stability by eliminating any massive payments due in the near future (Adam Rubin).

    Fans should accept the idea that the Wilpons and Katz are not going to sell the team, and any news that helps ownership maintain liquidity and cash flow is good news.
    You would be correct if Selig did not set the precedent for stepping in on the McCourt situation. Since the precedent has been set, and many of us see the current Mets situation as more laughable than the Dodgers situation, than, we do have reason to continue to hope that they are forced to sell.

    And in case you are asking in what way our situation is worse than the Dodgers:
    -Our payroll is already lower than theirs ever dropped
    -Our payroll for next year is potentially way lower than theirs ever dropped
    -Both had to take loans to meet payroll
    -Both had negative off the field situations that began to have direct connection to their running of the team
    -Baseball stepped in because the Dodgers represent a large and critical market. We play in an even larger and more critical market

    What is it that you do not see? Sometimes I wonder if you are really just busting balls and have been a master at taking this joke to proportions that no other human being would. If that is the case- well played sir

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyJerZ View Post
    You would be correct if Selig did not set the precedent for stepping in on the McCourt situation.
    Ownership's situation is the result of a crime perpetuated against them, and ownership deserves the opportunity to recover in good time. Would you kick a mugging victim lying in the street in the nuts? Otherwise, Selig very likely has confidence in their plan -- something he did not have with McCourt.

    This article by John Heyman covers the differences:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ons/index.html

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyJerZ View Post
    What is it that you do not see? Sometimes I wonder if you are really just busting balls and have been a master at taking this joke to proportions that no other human being would. If that is the case- well played sir.
    Sorry. I'm a straight shooter.
    Last edited by Dugmet; 01-03-2013 at 03:07 PM.
    "The 90 wins is about challenge. It's about changing the conversation. It's about framing questions for ourselves as to how we get there. So I stand by the notion that we need to get better, and in doing so we need to set concrete goals for ourselves so that we have sort of specific conversations among ourselves about how we're going to get there." -- Mr. Alderson

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugmet View Post
    Ownership's situation is the result of a crime perpetuated against them, and ownership deserves the opportunity to recover in good time. Would you kick a mugging victim lying in the street in the nuts? Otherwise, Selig very likely has confidence in their plan -- something he did not have with McCourt.

    This article by John Heyman covers the differences:

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/201...ons/index.html



    Sorry. I'm a straight shooter.
    In 2011, when this article was posted, I still do not think I would have agreed with the premises, but certainly not now. It first of all makes the point that the primary difference is that the Mets do not use the team as their personal piggy bank, while the Dodgers do. Its ironic that you quote this in this tread, because that is exactly what is taking place in this thread- the Mets are using SNY as their personal piggy bank- while the 2013 Dodgers, ironically, are highlighting the new network as one of the primary reasons that they are dumping so much money BACK INTO THE TEAM

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyJerZ View Post
    In 2011, when this article was posted, I still do not think I would have agreed with the premises, but certainly not now. It first of all makes the point that the primary difference is that the Mets do not use the team as their personal piggy bank, while the Dodgers do. Its ironic that you quote this in this tread, because that is exactly what is taking place in this thread- the Mets are using SNY as their personal piggy bank- while the 2013 Dodgers, ironically, are highlighting the new network as one of the primary reasons that they are dumping so much money BACK INTO THE TEAM
    You are referring to Coupon's speculation? There's fantasy and then there's reality. Guess which is which in my book.
    "The 90 wins is about challenge. It's about changing the conversation. It's about framing questions for ourselves as to how we get there. So I stand by the notion that we need to get better, and in doing so we need to set concrete goals for ourselves so that we have sort of specific conversations among ourselves about how we're going to get there." -- Mr. Alderson

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    Its a shell game. It would make me happy if we signed a player or two who actually are MAJOR LEAGUE QUALITY that can contribute daily!
    " You seek Yoda!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-rock-man View Post
    Its a shell game. It would make me happy if we signed a player or two who actually are MAJOR LEAGUE QUALITY that can contribute daily!
    Point out to me one of those on the FA market that actually makes sense for this team...

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    Quote Originally Posted by oshman800 View Post
    Point out to me one of those on the FA market that actually makes sense for this team...
    Wait, isn't that Sandy's job?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    Wait, isn't that Sandy's job?
    You keep bashing Sandy for not doing anything, yet you avoid the question every time someone asks what you would do.

    Cool.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MetsFanatic19 View Post
    You keep bashing Sandy for not doing anything, yet you avoid the question every time someone asks what you would do.

    Cool.

    It's not my job to GM the baseball team, get me SA's baseball contacts, and his office, oh and his salary and i'll get started.

    Cool?

    Tell me, when someone complain to you about a dud movie, do you say to them 'Well, what would you have done?'

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    One long shell game.

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    refinancing loans oh yeah they are going to spend tons of money. This just shows that they have absolutely no money to spend

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rique View Post
    refinancing loans oh yeah they are going to spend tons of money. This just shows that they have absolutely no money to spend
    How anyone can see this as good news is quite remarkable. This doesn't help the team on the field 1 iota.

    You may as well walk up to a guy living under a a bridge and try to sell him stocks.

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    All this means is that the Wilpons will do whatever they can to keep ownership of the team, underscoring the fact that their limited resources will force them to operate on the cheap.

    In other words, moar Andrew Browns.
    "Mr. Martin Tanner, Baritone, of Dayton, Ohio made his Town Hall debut last night. He came well prepared, but unfortunately his presentation was not up to contemporary professional standards. His voice lacks the range of tonal color necessary to make it consistently interesting. Full time consideration of another endeavor might be in order."

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