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    Quote Originally Posted by STL Don View Post
    Example:

    #1 pitchers: James Shields, Jake Peavy, Yovani Gallardo, Tim Hudson- all pitchers that are more than capable of leading a staff. When healthy, all have great stuff and big game capability.

    True Aces: Clayton Kershaw, Justin Verlander, Felix Hernandez, Mat Cain, Among the best starters in the game.. These guys have all the stuff and can simply dominate in any given outing.
    Agree, well put.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    ???? Felix ??.,d\d???
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elway=goat View Post
    I have always thought a teams ace was their best starting pitcher. I know some consider an ace one of the elite pitchers. But I was always told, and have always thought of an ace being the teams best starter.. our ace v your ace.
    Yup.

    That's the literal definition. People expanding on it is just making up their own parameters for the definition either because they themselves made it up, or they have heard someone else use it that way.

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    A #1 pitcher is not the first pitcher of the pitching staff, he is among the Top 5-10 elite pitchers in the league.

    An ace is best pitcher of the pitching staff in my eyes.

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    Sure its a such thing

    just like its a 'superstar' or 'allstar' in NBA

    Its like saying a 'go to guy/scorer' or 'whos clutch'

    its pretty much same but just slight diff....a ace is over or equal to no.1 just like a allstar could be a superstar and go to guy/scorer could be clutch,or just a scorer who comes up short in clutch,but not afraid to take shot from being the go to scorer in late games

    w-l record and contending i guess seperates a superstar vs allstar title,just like it would a ace vs no1 starter,but what do i know,im just assuming

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elway=goat View Post
    I have always thought a teams ace was their best starting pitcher. I know some consider an ace one of the elite pitchers. But I was always told, and have always thought of an ace being the teams best starter.. our ace v your ace.
    Agreed.



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    I just think it makes sense that a #1 pitcher would be a teams number one. He may not be on a good team, but he is technically a number one. I guess it depends on if you say he is that teams number one or he is A number one.

    And ace to me sounds like a guy thy would be at the top on most rotations. But I haven't talked too much bout it.

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    The term "ace of the staff" leads me to believe that each team has (at least) one.



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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    Some teams have the best ace (Mariners)
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    If James Shields is your #1, you're likely a bad team. Hes a good #3 or a solid #2. Peavy is right there with him. To me Cain is more a #1 than an ace too.

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    Matt Cain, not an ace?



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    Definitions in baseball change as quickly as statistics do. There seems to be a new one every week. People can define ace in any way they like. Some will think it means an elite starting pitcher while others will think it means a team's best pitcher. None of us are wrong. It can be looked at in different ways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LASportsFan1996 View Post
    ??? Mariners???
    You don't know who Felix Hernandez is ?


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    Quote Originally Posted by jej View Post
    Some teams have the best ace (Mariners)
    I think he was assuming you meant more than one ace (mariners)

    not what you actually wrote... the best ace. that too is a stretch.

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