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    Suarez is young and plays a tough position. As more of a slugger, I don't think you'll see 20 HRs from him or anything this year at his age. I'm more interested in his scouting reports. Hopefully his defense at C will be solid or at least potentially above average.

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    Send me top 20's so I can do a new list for the first post. I will post it on Monday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomar View Post
    Suarez is young and plays a tough position. As more of a slugger, I don't think you'll see 20 HRs from him or anything this year at his age. I'm more interested in his scouting reports. Hopefully his defense at C will be solid or at least potentially above average.
    As a 17 year old he had a fairly decent season for the DSL Red Sox last year.

    .270/.399/.425 isn't terrible. Soxprospects has very little on him, "Catcher from Venezuela. Solid defensively. Fringe-average contact hitter with some pop."

    This from overthemonster.com (you know the site where EeasyA said he was going to start posting instead of PSD ray

    Suarez was signed by the Red Sox as an international free agent following the 2010 season. Suarez didn't turn 18 until after the cutoff date, making this his age-17 campaign. Like other rookie leagues, the Dominican Summer League is a low-offense environment, but that didn't stop Suarez from putting up some great numbers. His .270/.399/.425 compares very well to the league-average .243/.337/.330, and he was younger than your average DOSL player, as well.
    Not much to go on.

    Speaking of catchers, not that I expect much, but I'm interested to see how Beau Bishop performs this season. Was a heck of a softball player in New Zealand (not talking beer league softball.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomar View Post
    I would consider Owens, Swihart, and Cecchini top tier already.
    From what I saw I'd agree on Owens and Cecchini but not yet on Swihart. The latter is still more "upside" than accomplishment. He also needs to put on some serious weight if he's going to remain behind the plate; he looks like Buchholz with baggy catching gear. I'm not sure they even make straps tight enough to make the gear fit right...

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    None of them are top tier. You have to put up terrific numbers or have a very high ceiling to be top tier. All 3 of them are B prospects.

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    They are top tier in our farm, I think that is what both RST and Nomar are implying.

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    They are not top tier in our farm. There are 4 prospects that are unarguably above them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lavigne43- View Post
    They are not top tier in our farm. There are 4 prospects that are unarguably above them.
    You assume you know the definition of tier in regard to farm systems?

    Ok, what I meant is that they are guys everyone already knows about. They are all top 10 in our system.
    Last edited by Nomar; 01-03-2013 at 01:19 PM.

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    I understood you Nomar, I'm assuming you were going by this, correct me if I'm wrong:

    1-10 top tier
    11-25 middle tier
    26+ bottom tier

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    Yeah thats what i meant. Maybe give a little more room for the middle tier since we are deeper than we have been in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Lavigne43- View Post
    Send me top 20's so I can do a new list for the first post. I will post it on Monday
    Yup. You should edit this into the 1st post so it doesn't go unnoticed.

    Anyway, I'm extremely excited to follow the prospects this year. I live close to Portland and hope to see a lot of games.

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    Here's my list:

    1) Xander Bogaerts, SS
    2) Matt Barnes, SP
    3) Jackie Bradley, OF
    4) Allen Webster, SP
    5) Rubby de la Rosa, SP/RP
    6) Garin Cecchini, 3B
    7) Bryce Brentz, OF
    8) Henry Owens, SP
    9) Blake Swihart, C
    10) Deven Marrero, SS
    11) Brian Johnson, SP
    12) Jose Iglesias, SS
    13) Drake Britton, SP
    14) Alex Wilson, RP
    15) Manuel Margot, OF
    16) Brandon Jacobs, OF
    17) Brandon Workman, SP
    18) Keury de la Cruz, OF
    19) Jose Vinicio, SS
    20) Pat Light, SP

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    1) Xander Bogaerts
    2) Matt Barnes
    3) Jackie Bradley
    4) Rubby De La Rosa
    5) Allen Webster
    6) Henry Owens
    7) Garin Cecchini
    8) Blake Swihart
    9) Bryce Brentz
    10) Deven Marrero
    11) Jose Vinicio
    12) Brandon Jacobs
    13) Brandon Workman
    14) Drake Britton
    15) Brian Johnson
    16) Alex Wilson
    17) Jose Iglesias
    18) Manuel Margot
    19) Ty Buttrey
    20) Cody Kukuk

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    Shouldn't it be 2014 in the thread title?

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    I think I'm going to reveal the name of the prospect on the bottom of the list every day. I can edit the title with their name, and we can discuss that specific prospect.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nomar View Post
    You assume you know the definition of tier in regard to farm systems?

    Ok, what I meant is that they are guys everyone already knows about. They are all top 10 in our system.
    Honestly, I've never heard of that terminology used that way for a farm system (To split it in 3, static sections). Everything in a tier should have a similar value. For me, to be in the same tier there has to be a decent argument for each player to be the best overall in that tier. For fun, here's how I would separate the Red Sox system, without thinking too much(alphabetically)

    Tier 1
    Bogaerts

    Tier 2
    Barnes
    Bradley
    Webster

    Tier 3
    Brentz
    Cecchini
    Owens
    Swihart

    Tier 4
    Britton
    KDLC
    Johnson
    Marrero
    Wilson
    Workman

    Tier 5
    Buttrey
    Callahan
    Coyle
    Holt
    Iglesias
    Jacobs
    Kukuk
    Light
    Lin
    Margot
    Montas
    Mercedes
    Ranaudo
    Shaw
    Vazquez
    Vinicio

    Don't feel like doing more

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