Regardless of where we take them if they fail they fail, just doesn't make sense to reach just because we need one. Especially reach that high for something that is very very uncertain.
Lol you neglected the first paragraphOriginally Posted by Claymation;25250548However if you like Von Miller, then you'll like Jarvis Jones. They have similar styles of play as elite edge-rushers who also are strong pursuit run-defense linebackers. Jones had 85 tackles, 14.5 sacks, 24.5 tackles for a loss, seven forced fumbles, three passes broken up and one interception in 2012. He finished the year strong with two sacks against Nebraska and announced he will skip his final collegiate season to enter the 2013 NFL Draft.
"1/28/13: At the East-West Shrine, scouts told WalterFootball.com that Jones would slide on draft day because they believe he will test poorly before the draft and isn't a hard worker in the weight room. The scouts said that watching the game tape, Jones is worthy of being a top draft pick, but they don't believe he will go that high. Given that Jones doesn't attack the weight room, I had to slide him down some on my big board. "
Until a player reaches these PA numbers, lets not talk about how good they are.
The Following PA's are when sample size stabilizes
50 PA: Swing %
100 PA: Contact Rate
150 PA: Strikeout Rate, Line Drive Rate, Pitches/PA
200 PA: Walk Rate, Groundball Rate, GB/FB
250 PA: Flyball Rate
300 PA: Home Run Rate, HR/FB
500 PA: OBP, SLG, OPS, 1B Rate, Popup Rate
550 PA: ISO
However, I'm not convinced right now that there's a non-Geno Smith QB worth taking with the 9th pick.
Shaq: I'm gonna go out on a limb and say the Knicks make the finals this year
Chuck: That better be a big *** limb
Shaq: Big enough to hold your big *** Charles
First of all, I completely agree that I don't see a non-Geno Smith QB worth taking at #9.
But it's your 1st and 2nd sentence that puts me at odds with some people on here.
If the Jets were to draft a QB at 9 that's not someone I see as a fit, then I will have an issue with it.
Just because the teams scouts (or to use a word that someone else has said "experts") agree on a player doesn't mean that we armchair quarterbacks must consider it the right move.
In fact I believe having that kind of blind non-questioning attitude makes one's viewpoints and opinion no better than the most minute peon. (not referring to you per say)
I had an issue with it when the Jets drafted Ken O'Brien over Marino (as did the fans).
I had an issue with it when the Jets drafted Kyle Brady over Warren Sapp (as did the fans).
I had an issue with it when the Jets drafted Johnny Mitchell, Marvin Jones and Mike Nugent.
And I don't care what the team scouts (excuse me) "experts" were thinking, at the time I felt they were bad moves.
Putting unquestioning believe in the scouts/experts doesn't make them right, it just makes you a blind follower, instead of a mindful, thinking, armchair QBing voice that's capable of deciding whether you feel the team is making proper moves or not to your satisfaction.
Next time a person stands in front of you inside a NYC pizzaria, goes up to the register and doesn't order anything and continually sizes the menu up and down (especially when the menu hasn't changed in 20 years), how long would it be until someone behind you says "hey hurry the f up".
Be loud and proud, the NY way.
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But I would tend to believe unless Geno lands at 9, there's really not much of a difference between the 2nd tier QBs.
It's just a matter of which one do you think will best fit your system, so after an initial run on about 3 QBs in the 1st round, I'd expect the Jets to still land a decent one in the 2nd.
It just would be nice to get the passrusher at 9 this team has lacked for many, many years, if Geno isn't available.
Kind of surprised TWilson's arm turned sour on him, because I thought his arm was legit.
Still though, combines will be here before we know it, and that will send some QBs souring up the boards.