I think a lot of you guys are underrating Nassib. IMO, he is at worst the 5th best QB in this draft class. Him and Glennon are neck and neck in my book. I wasn't too impressed with Glennon's senior bowl or bowl game however. I have found out that you either are really high on Nassib or not. I have hear many people call him the 2nd best QB in the draft while others view him as the 7th or 8th.
Personally, my favorite QB in the whole class is Wilson. I think that if Wilson makes it passed the top 10, then there is a legitimate chance he falls to us in the 2nd. Although I know many of you are against drafting a QB in the top 2 rounds, Wilson in the 2nd would be a very good pick IMO all though I would love Bernard.
Ultimately, I am hoping we end up with either Wilson or Nassib. I wouldn't mind Glennon, but I would be against drafting him in the 2nd. The only guy I want in the 2nd is Wilson. I think Nassib definitely could be there in the 3rd which I would like.
I am hoping that our draft looks like:
Miami Heat Sim League
05-06 - (27-55)06-07 - (42-40)07-08 -(41-41)08-09 - (47-35)09-10 - (33-49)10-11 -
Tyler Bray is the best QB prospect in this draft and is the only one I would consider drafting. However, I'm hoping our QB situation looks like this next season and them we draft a QB early in next years draft.
2013/2014 NYJ QB:
#1. Matt Moore/Mark Sanchez
#2. Matt Moore/Mark Sanchez
#3. Greg McElroy
Ryan Nassib, QB, Syracuse
As Charlie Campbell noted earlier during the week in his Senior Bowl Rumors post, scouts were disappointed with Ryan Nassib all week. DraftCountdown's Shane Hallam agreed: "Struggled all week at planting his front foot and driving the ball even when coached individually about it." This carried over into the game, as Nassib made a poor decision and tossed a pick following a low snap. Nassib did nothing positive of note, finishing 4-of-10 for 44 yards and the interception.
Here's another on Wilson:
Tyler Wilson, QB, Arkansas
Tyler Wilson looked like a right-handed version of Matt Leinart in the Senior Bowl. He spent most of his time checking down, and his one deep attempt died in the air and was nearly picked off. This was only one throw, but scouts already had reservations about his deep ball heading into the Senior Bowl, so this only validated their concerns. It's tough to imagine Wilson going in the first round now. He finished 8-of-11, but for only 39 yards.
E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
E.J. Manuel was the top quarterback in the Senior Bowl, leading the South team to all 21 of its points. Manuel, who went 7-of-10 for 76 yards, one touchdown and an interception, dropped in a beautiful touch pass to Michael Williams for a 20-yard score. He also rushed four times for 10 yards on the ground and a second touchdown. The pick wasn't his fault; it came on a tip on a fourth down, so the South squad would have given up possession anyway. Mike Mayock said that he was hearing third- and fourth-round grades for Manuel, which means the Florida State product will be going in Rounds 2-3 because quarterbacks are usually chosen earlier than anticipated.
We'll see what Marty sees in this class of QB's as I would think he would weigh heavily on his guy to run his offense. I think such speculation is fruitless.
According to this source, Manuel was the most impressive with none of the others being remarkable. He flashes an ability to run similar to Russell Wilson.
Last edited by John X Doe; 01-28-2013 at 12:09 PM.
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theres a story on rotoworld stating that its highly unlikely the Chiefs take a QB with the first pick. the only other team i think would take a QB before us is Buffalo and you have to think since Marrone is the coach there now they would take Nassib over Geno. if Geno is there at #9, do we take him?
A top 10 pick should be used on an NFL ready player IMO. When teams use such a high pick on a player who isn't NFL ready, they often force him into playing before he's ready. Not everyone has the mental makeup to fail before they taste success.
-Sun TzuLet your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt.
I don't want to spend another top-10 draft-pick if there is a reasonable chance that they will suck!
The only reason Russell Wilson went in the 3rd round was his "lack of stature." There wasn't any question of the kids arm strength, accuracy, leadership and athleticism in his Senior year @ Wisconsin - 72.8% completion, 3175 passing yards (338 rushing), with a Y/A of 10.3, 33 TDs and 4 (JUST FOUR) INTs. What is interesting is - his 1st 3 years @ NC State - he had very similar completion %, Y/A, and TD/INT ratio, etc, as Mike Glennon has had over his last 2 years, and one might ask - is Glennon handicapped by NC State, and would the monster-boy's numbers go up, even somewhat, like Wilson's did if Glennon was in a similar situation - ALTHOUGH - despite another strong year by Monte Ball - none of the Wisconsin QBs this year (a Senior - Phillips, and a Junior - O'Brien) came close to what Wilson did, although Fresman - Joel Stave was the closest with over 1/2 of Wisconsin's passing yards for the year - despite throwing nearly 50 passes fewer than the others - and had a 9.28 Y/A, 6 TD/3 INT, and a completion of 58.8% - a HUGE difference was the loss of Nick Toon to the NFL in '11 - he had 25 more receptions in 2011 than Wisconsin's top pass catcher in 2012 - just trying to level the field a little - although it's probably more confusing and BS'ing than anything else.
Why did't I just stop with - I agree with Mr. Magoo - no high 1st round picks for ???? rookie QBs. (Why - because I'm just not that smart)
Hey, you never know!
Last edited by jetsfansince'67; 01-28-2013 at 04:58 PM.
Anyhoo, just a stat that many might or might not be aware of is Geno Smith threw for 42 TD's and only 6 INT's. The joker threw 25 TD's before throwing his 1st INT. Wow! That's impressive for any QB in any league to accomplish. He may not be the reach some are calling for come April after the combine and pro days. Very good discipline shown for a college QB. I'm not sure Sanchez could accomplish such a feat even if he played a season in college today. And Geno can run with the ball and utilize this pistol offense that is freezing defenses.
I bet KC takes him in spite of the Rotoworld report and I'm not sure HOW they determined this anyway. Andy Reid should take him and keep Bowe paired with Jamaal Charles and they'll be scoring points again.
Last edited by John X Doe; 01-28-2013 at 07:15 PM.
No other QB other than Geno belongs in the top 20, but that's not to say another QB won't find their way in.
Fortunately at 9, Geno is more than a value pick and the Jets would have a QB to build with, but it's still doubtful he'll last to #9.
Last edited by MrX27; 01-28-2013 at 10:34 PM.
Getting Geno would be awsome but the Chiefs would be on some serious dope to let him slide, and if the Chiefs let him go the Cards will pick him up. I'd like Mingo, we are good on linebackers with Harris and we should see more out of Demario this upcoming year. Mingo could be our version of Von Miller, Aldon Smith. And that height at 6'5 for an OLB... Thats who I want.