trying to win with Bargnani playing 30+ mins is like trying to drive a car with the parking brake on - possible but much harder than it should be.
Last edited by Jamiecballer; 12-30-2012 at 07:04 PM.
I find it laughable though, with the keys of the franchise given to Lowry, Jonas acclimating himself to the league & the overall lack of production from the SF position, that he's the lone person to blame for this teams struggle out the gate.
The team/organization/Casey made him 3rd option to Lowry/DeRozan, gave the keys of the franchise & offense to Lowry. Which would suggest the team had higher expectations for Lowry. Who as a starter went 2-14 to start the season. Calderon was 2-5 in that same stretch of games, starting, Bargnani played in both wins.
there is a huge difference though between imperfections and problems. i don't think anyone is suggesting that there aren't a lot of imperfections on this team.
Last edited by Jamiecballer; 12-30-2012 at 09:23 PM.
It's nice that people think that we're all of a sudden a great team without Bargnani, but please realize that these 7 games outta 8 we won are against HORRIBLE teams. And not just horrible teams, horrible teams that are missing their best players in some cases. Their combined record is 75-138 (.352 winning %).
That's the main causation of this little streak we are on, not because Bargs is out of the lineup.
His elevated play early last season partially contributed to the optimisim responsible for his expectations this season. Still, the team played "competitively" without him and competed which added to the idea that Bargnani would compliment that progress when he returned, which he didn't this season and last.
He's not the sole reason, but he heavily contributed to it. Enough to the point where it appears that he is being heavily shopped despite the obvious love Jones BC shares for his number 1 pick.
Everybody is entitled to their opinion but I'm wondering why there is any point. The dude is on the verge of being traded, he has played terribly this season and has been a severe disappointment for this franchise in relation to his entire career thus far. Just seems like a waste of time.
Last edited by gwrighter; 12-30-2012 at 09:54 PM.
What I asked was not sarcasm but a question to the possibilities I had previously listed.
I'm under the impression from Tmath the solution to wins was a simple as removing Bargnani, which I disagree with.
In this current stretch of wins, Calderon's play has been impressive, there was an ease in schedule, Anderson came back & produced at SF, Amir began closing out games over Jonas, Ross has played better, Casey slowed the pace & most importantly, better team unity.
Davis' 25mins subbed in for Bargnani could be considered a contributing factor but far from the only reason this team has turned a corner. Raptors have been out rebounded & outscored in the paint over this stretch, save 1 or 2 games & Kleiza who has taken some of Bargnani's mins and has not played well, outside of one game.
vs Mavs: 25 pts, 9 reb, 45%FG
vs Bobcats: 25 pts, 2 reb, 53% FG --Lost because of ADMITTED blown call
vs Pistons: 35 pts, 5 reb, 4 ast, 65%FG
vs Kings: 8 pts, 3 reb, 3 ast 21%FG
vs Houston: 21 pts, 4 reb, 2 ast, 67%FG
Blame him for the Sactown loss all you want, but the fact that you are insinuating that we lost to those teams because of Bargs presence on the court is laughable.
Now you're not only hating on him when he's playing badly, but when he's playing well?