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    Marc Stein: Raptors are a lock to trade Bargnani

    “One source close to the situation said Friday that Bargnani remains “a lock to be moved.” That naturally depends on finding a taker for the underachieving Italian forward, but (Kyle) Lowry’s contract shouldn’t be too hard to attach to a trade, valued at $5.8 million this season and with only $1 million guaranteed of the $6.2 million he’s owed next season.”

    Marc Stein | ESPN.com

    Bargnani has two years and $23 millions dollars left on his contract after this season. That’s a tough pill to swallow for any team, especially for a guy not playing at all right now, but getting Kyle Lowry or Jose Calderon as a reward for taking on Bargnani’s contract might be enticing enough for some team out there.

    Toronto, meanwhile, is in a weird spot. A glance at their roster would lead you to believe they’re primed for a rebuilding period if they could shed Bargnani’s contract, but Raptors GM Bryan Colangelo recently decided to pay the uninspiring wing combination of DeMar DeRozan and Landry Fields a combined $15 million dollars a year going forward. Add in that the Raptors likely won’t have their 2013 first round pick (the pick is top-3 protected) because of the Lowry deal with Houston, and it would seem that Colangelo clearly has no interest in rebuilding.

    That’s what makes the Bargnani decision even more critical. The Raptors need a real player in any deal for Bargnani in order to contend, but they probably don’t want to lose Lowry for their future, or Calderon for their present. Selecting Bargnani number one overall instead of LaMarcus Aldridge set the franchise back, but forfeiting a valuable asset just to get rid of him would only seem to compound the mistake.

    Toronto needs to look in the mirror more than anything else. Are they contending or rebuilding? Are they skewing young or rolling with veterans? Are they planning on improving in free agency or through the draft? Bargnani isn’t the star you can dream on, but trading him may provide Toronto the direction they so desperately need.
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    if they can do a package, trade him and one of the pg.

    if not, amnesty him at the end of the year.

    either way bargs is done with the raps.

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    Is BC just trying to sell tickets? or does he want to win? If he just wants to sell tickets im out...
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    On Russel Westbrook's Chances at Defensive Player of the Year:

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    I think he has a good case. He's the only guy who can hold Durant to under 30 points a game.


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    EDIT: Wrong Thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjt20mik View Post
    Wow bad call by the refs
    Yeah our international scouts ****ed up. What fobs.

    OUT WITH BARGS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TO Rapz View Post
    Yeah our international scouts ****ed up. What fobs.

    OUT WITH BARGS.
    Wrong thread.. my bad.. one too many beers tonight

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    Try him as the 6th man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Yorker View Post
    Try him as the 6th man.
    Then one of Fields, AA, Lucas will be glued to the bench and someone like Ross won't be beasting like he is now of the bench.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles4Lyfe View Post
    Then one of Fields, AA, Lucas will be glued to the bench and someone like Ross won't be beasting like he is now of the bench.
    What
    Bargs is a big, he wouldnt affect Ross's minutes. And who gives a **** if Fields,Kleiza, and all the other scrubs get mins?

    10 man rotation:
    Lowry (24)/Calderon(24)
    DeRozan(22)/Ross(22)/Lowry(4)
    AA(28)/Pietrus(12)/DeRozan(8)
    Davis(26)/Bargs(22)
    JVal (23)/Amir(25)

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Yorker View Post
    What
    Bargs is a big, he wouldnt affect Ross's minutes. And who gives a **** if Fields,Kleiza, and all the other scrubs get mins?

    10 man rotation:
    Lowry (24)/Calderon(24)
    DeRozan(22)/Ross(22)/Lowry(4)
    AA(28)/Pietrus(12)/DeRozan(8)
    Davis(26)/Bargs(22)
    JVal (23)/Amir(25)
    What do you mean who gives a **** I give a ****.

    Ed Davis 26 minutes after the way he's been playing?? Forget that, and Fields brings something Bargs doesn't intensity and grit to the damn team. He's more of a glue guy and with your rotation then your basically sticking 10 M buried on the bench just to give a guy who's a cancer on the team minutes.

    After what we've built up right now he's clearly the weaklest link and I don't want this guy taking minutes away from our guys.

    AA is our 6th man and has been darn good at his role.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles4Lyfe View Post
    What do you mean who gives a **** I give a ****.

    Ed Davis 26 minutes after the way he's been playing?? Forget that, and Fields brings something Bargs doesn't intensity and grit to the damn team. He's more of a glue guy and with your rotation then your basically sticking 10 M buried on the bench just to give a guy who's a cancer on the team minutes.

    After what we've built up right now he's clearly the weaklest link and I don't want this guy taking minutes away from our guys.

    AA is our 6th man and has been darn good at his role.
    if anyone suffered it'd be Amir


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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles4Lyfe View Post
    What do you mean who gives a **** I give a ****.

    Ed Davis 26 minutes after the way he's been playing?? Forget that, and Fields brings something Bargs doesn't intensity and grit to the damn team. He's more of a glue guy and with your rotation then your basically sticking 10 M buried on the bench just to give a guy who's a cancer on the team minutes.

    After what we've built up right now he's clearly the weaklest link and I don't want this guy taking minutes away from our guys.

    AA is our 6th man and has been darn good at his role.


    You know how many mins Davis has been getting since Bargs went out 9 games ago? 27 mins per game. But you're right 26 mpg is unacceptable..

    AA's mins would hardly be affected by Bargs. I think he should be getting 25-30 mins a game because he's our best 3. In fact I would move AA to the starting lineup in favor of Pietrus, thus making Bargs the 6th man and trying to raise his trade value.

    Jury is still out of Fields, 1 game vs a shi**y team doesnt make him a guarantee to be a fixture in the rotation.

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    what Cal said


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    Good. I like Bargnani but he ran his course on this team years ago.

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