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  1. #16
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    Very true.

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    BTW the 1995 top 10 Mets prospects were

    1. Bill Pulsipher
    2. Paul Wilson
    3. Rey Ordonez
    4. Edgardo Alfonzo
    5. Jason Isringhausen
    6. Carl Everett
    7. Jay Payton
    8. Terrence Long
    9. Kirk Presley
    10. Preston Wilson

    Yeah, they had 4 CF prospects in the top 10.

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    Also all those guys made the majors except for Presley.

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    It's that curveball man if he gets that going expect him to be Wainwright pre injury. Out of his secondary pitches, that curveball will get it done.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    Matt Harvey 59.1 IP, 3-5, 2.73 ERA, 1.14 whip at age 23
    Jason Isringhousen 93 IP, 9-2, 2.81 ERA, 1.28 whip at age 22

    Remember the fact that Paul Wilson was also more hyped much like Wheeler is now.

    Wilson at age 22 at AA/AAA in 1995 - 186 IP, 2.41 ERA, 1.029 whip and was the #1 prospect in baseball
    Wheeler at age 22 at AA/AAA - 149 IP, 3.26 ERA, 1.16 whip and is a top 15 prospect in baseball

    I could see it now in 3 years the Mets trade Harvey for a soft tossing loser and Wheeler is playing for another team after numerous injuries.

    The question is who is this version of Pulsipher?
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    We are not allowed to feel good here.

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    With Syndergaard, I think this has a good chance to be a solid rotation. There are no nicknames to describe this group except 3 TORP and a lefty.

    Getting back to the topic, If they like Wheeler better than Bundy, and they wouldn't trade Myers for Wheeler, plus
    Which player will develop into the better pitcher: Taijuan Walker or Gerrit Cole or Zack Wheeler?

    Chris Mellen: Wheeler. I was impressed with what I saw from him this year. Electric, four pitch arsenal and the knowledge of how to use it. The other arms are very, very good, but I'm a Wheeler guy.
    Shouldn't that put Wheeler as the #2 prospect?

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    I always said Wheeler>>>>Harvey, and basically anybody else, he is the ****.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    BTW the 1995 top 10 Mets prospects were

    1. Bill Pulsipher
    2. Paul Wilson
    3. Rey Ordonez
    4. Edgardo Alfonzo
    5. Jason Isringhausen
    6. Carl Everett
    7. Jay Payton
    8. Terrence Long

    9. Kirk Presley
    10. Preston Wilson

    Yeah, they had 4 CF prospects in the top 10.
    The bolded players had very solid or at least serviceable major league careers. Imagine Pulshipher and Wilson panned out.

    Oh well! Thats baseball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marty Mcfly View Post
    I always said Wheeler>>>>Harvey, and basically anybody else, he is the ****.
    I used to be on that boat, but I just don't see how he can be better than Harvey after what he showed in the majors so far. I really hope he is better, because that would be mean we are in great shape.

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    I am expecting Harvey to come back to earth and bit.

    Hitters are going to be laying off of the high stuff going forward and I wonder if he'll make the adjustment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradHolt4CYoung View Post
    Was Paul Wilson really baseballs top pitching prospect?
    Wilson was the #1 overall draft pick in 94
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    Quote Originally Posted by imagesrdecievin View Post
    I am expecting Harvey to come back to earth and bit.

    Hitters are going to be laying off of the high stuff going forward and I wonder if he'll make the adjustment?
    Outside of his first start, he wasn't really relying on high stuff. He's shown extremely good and nasty stuff with all of his pitches.

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    Quote Originally Posted by imagesrdecievin View Post
    I am expecting Harvey to come back to earth and bit.

    Hitters are going to be laying off of the high stuff going forward and I wonder if he'll make the adjustment?
    Outside of his first start, he wasn't really relying on high stuff. He's shown extremely good and nasty stuff with all of his pitches and he's pitched lower in the zone.

    But you can live upstairs when you have stuff as electric as Harvey's.

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    Being a Mets fan for 35 years I've learned to temper my enthusiasm about any prospect, seen too many cant misses, miss.

    Only can hope

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