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  1. 12-28-2012, 09:03 PM #1
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    Who Gains/Loses the Most if Advanced Stats Come 20 Years Ealier

    Sister thread from the baseball forum. Felt it was interesting enough to ask here.
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    Thats a good question but I would have to look a few names up. Off the top of my head Im thinking Charles Barkley would be looked at differently. Still its kind of hard to gauge when you dont know what public perception is anyways.
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    you stole my thread. that is all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    you stole my thread. that is all.
    lol Didn't I say it was a thread from the baseball forum?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guppyfighter View Post
    lol Didn't I say it was a thread from the baseball forum?
    well good luck to you in generating more interest than the baseball one got (not much).
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    loses the most - Iverson. in the light of advanced stats he looks an awful lot like Monta Ellis.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    loses the most - Iverson. in the light of advanced stats he looks an awful lot like Monta Ellis.
    The first and last years of Iverson's career were the only seasons of his entire career in which he posted a negative RAPM (ranked amoung the top 10 in SGs everyone of those years). Monta Ellis? He has done so every year of his career. Never a positive statistical player.

    Not a good comparison by any means. That's more of an "eye" comparison than a statistical.

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    Everyone is different but A.I.'s advanced stats have given me a greater understanding and appreciation for him and as a result I think I like him even more. He was never great in terms of advanced metrics but they did one thing, they proved my beliefs on him and his role in the 76ers team to be true. The better teammates he had during his prime the better played the weaker the teammates the more he struggled and had to force it on too many occasions. His advanced stats reflect this.

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    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by b@llhog24 View Post
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    Could you imagine if we had Synergy in Squid's day

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swashcuff:24889112
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    Could you imagine if we had Synergy in Squid's day

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    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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    Thats the thing too, since we dont have some of the numbers available for those eras its an eye test type of thing too.
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    Advanced stats are for geeks and geeks alike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cromedome View Post
    Advanced stats are for geeks and geeks alike.
    Okay, Yeah, Mr. Joe cool on a sports forum.
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