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    Adrian Peterson vs other running backs

    Just curious, how much better is adrian peterson then the other running backs in the nfl?

    Ive always considered RB a very low priority. I think the line makes or breaks the back.

    LT, QB, CB, those are high priority positions... IMO.

    RB, you can grab a guy in the 5-6th round, and make a superstar pretty easy, based on the line you have, IMO...

    That being said, i think adrian peterson is diffrent. I would spend a 1st on him, high 1st. I think he is special.

    Obviously he is the best back in the nfl..

    my question is, do you think its close? how big is the gap?

    i think adrian is a top 5 back maybe in the history of the nfl. top 10... idk.. very very special. easily best back of the last 10 years. top 5 in the last 25....

    im a cowboys fan so not being a homer.. he is just one of the very few players i have total respect for, that i really root for outside my cowboys..

    so, on topic, is it close?

    adrian peterson vs. arian foster? or alfred morris? Chris johnson? mccoy? bush? charles? gore? anyone..

    how close? how much of a gap? would arian plus a 1st round pick equal peterson?

    just curious

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    Quote Originally Posted by rawz View Post
    Just curious, how much better is adrian peterson then the other running backs in the nfl?

    Ive always considered RB a very low priority. I think the line makes or breaks the back.

    LT, QB, CB, those are high priority positions... IMO.

    RB, you can grab a guy in the 5-6th round, and make a superstar pretty easy, based on the line you have, IMO...

    That being said, i think adrian peterson is diffrent. I would spend a 1st on him, high 1st. I think he is special.

    Obviously he is the best back in the nfl..

    my question is, do you think its close? how big is the gap?

    i think adrian is a top 5 back maybe in the history of the nfl. top 10... idk.. very very special. easily best back of the last 10 years. top 5 in the last 25....

    im a cowboys fan so not being a homer.. he is just one of the very few players i have total respect for, that i really root for outside my cowboys..

    so, on topic, is it close?

    adrian peterson vs. arian foster? or alfred morris? Chris johnson? mccoy? bush? charles? gore? anyone..

    how close? how much of a gap? would arian plus a 1st round pick equal peterson?

    just curious
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    The gap, IMO, is bigger from 1 (Peterson) to 2 (Charles/Lynch/Foster/whoever) at the running back position that it is from 1 to 2 at any other position in football. Be it WR (Megatron vs. Marshall), QB (whoever you think is the best between Brady, Manning or Rodgers), OLD (Smith vs. Miller), CB (Sherman vs. Tillman vs. Revis), and so on. Maybe the gap between Watt and the second best DE (Wake?) is close to as big.

    I think it's a pretty significant gap this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ManRamForPrez24 View Post
    The gap, IMO, is bigger from 1 (Peterson) to 2 (Charles/Lynch/Foster/whoever) at the running back position that it is from 1 to 2 at any other position in football. Be it WR (Megatron vs. Marshall), QB (whoever you think is the best between Brady, Manning or Rodgers), OLD (Smith vs. Miller), CB (Sherman vs. Tillman vs. Revis), and so on. Maybe the gap between Watt and the second best DE (Wake?) is close to as big.

    I think it's a pretty significant gap this year.
    I'd probably agree although the gap between Joe Thomas and number 2 OT is pretty big as well

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    AP <<<<< Alex Green. Goes without saying (not a homer) :-D

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    I'd take McCoy over him next year if I had a coach with a brain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    I'd take McCoy over him next year if I had a coach with a brain.
    Just no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MinnesotaFtw View Post
    Just no.
    I'll bet you anything you want if Andy Reid is fired McCoy has more yards from scrimmage and total TD's than AP next year. You on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    I'll bet you anything you want if Andy Reid is fired McCoy has more yards from scrimmage and total TD's than AP next year. You on?
    I'll take that bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NormSizedMidget View Post
    I'll bet you anything you want if Andy Reid is fired McCoy has more yards from scrimmage and total TD's than AP next year. You on?
    Says the guy who thinks Tim Tebow is a starting QB.

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    I wouldnt even put McCoy in the top 5.

    Peterson, MJD, Lynch, Charles, Foster > McCoy

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    Quote Originally Posted by flgatorsandjags View Post
    I wouldnt even put McCoy in the top 5.

    Peterson, MJD, Lynch, Charles, Foster > McCoy
    I show a more complete list in my post just above this however look at the 6 HBs we are debating as the "Elite". 5/6 were drafted in the 2nd round or higher.

    And of the 4 "up and coming" HBs we've seen this year (Ridley, Morris, Martin, Richardson) 3/4 were drafted in the first 3 rounds, 2 as 1st round picks.

    The idea you can just "plug and play" any old HB and have him produce is wrong...
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    I might take McCoy over Charles. I think I'd take Muscle Hamster over both of them though. Both are just too damn injury prone.

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    There's this fallacy that you can just "plug in" HBs from lower rounds and have them do as good as guys in higher rounds that turn out to be good. While some do, it is no less/more possible with HBs than any other position in Football.

    Here are the Top HBs this year by yardage and what round they were drafted in:

    Adrian Peterson (1st)
    Marshawn Lynch (1st)
    Jamal Charles (3rd)
    Alfred Morris (6th)
    Arian Foster (Und.)
    Doug Martin (1st)
    Stevan Ridley (3rd)
    Chris Johnson (1st)
    CJ Spiller (1st)
    Frank Gore (3rd)
    Ray Rice (2nd)
    Ben Javarus Green-Ellis (Und.)
    Matt Forte (2nd)
    Steven Jackson (1st)
    Shawn Greene (3rd)
    Reggie Bush (1st)
    Trent Richardson (1st)
    Ahmad Bradshaw (7th)
    LeSean McCoy (2nd)
    Maurice Jones-Drew (2nd)

    Statistically 8/20 HBs this year were 1st rounders (40%). 16/20 were drafted in the first 3 rounds (80%)

    Bottom line, if you want to have a great Rushing attack you better be drafting a HB in the first 3 rounds...
    Last edited by valade16; 12-28-2012 at 04:21 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by valade16 View Post
    There's this fallacy that you can just "plug in" HBs from lower rounds and have them do as good as guys in higher rounds that turn out to be good. While some do, it is no less/more possible with HBs than any other position in Football.

    Here are the Top HBs this year by yardage and what round they were drafted in:

    Adrian Peterson (1st)
    Marshawn Lynch (1st)
    Jamal Charles (3rd)
    Alfred Morris (6th)
    Arian Foster (Und.)

    Doug Martin (1st)
    Stevan Ridley (3rd)
    Chris Johnson (1st)
    CJ Spiller (1st)
    Frank Gore (3rd)
    Ray Rice (2nd)
    Ben Javarus Green-Ellis (Und.)
    Matt Forte (2nd)
    Steven Jackson (1st)
    Shawn Greene (3rd)
    Reggie Bush (1st)
    Trent Richardson (1st)
    Ahmad Bradshaw (7th)
    LeSean McCoy (2nd)
    Maurice Jones-Drew (2nd)

    Statistically 8/20 HBs this year were 1st rounders (40%). 16/20 were drafted in the first 3 rounds (80%)

    Bottom line, if you want to have a great Rushing attack you better be drafting a HB in the first 3 rounds...
    Bolded two backs that are in a zone blocking scheme which pretty much any back can run in. Pretty much shoes that they need to be drafted in the top 3 rounds to be worth a ****. This is coming from a Texans fan as well... We love Arian but it's obvious that in a zone blocking scheme that pretty much any back with patients will have success.

    With this being said I think AP is hands down a man amongst boys at the running back position.
    Last edited by tripleplay2007; 12-29-2012 at 12:53 AM.

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