How optimistic are you about the Mets future after the Dickey trade?

[Marty Mcfly]

Still haven't answered my question.

I have.


Now tell me why they're moving payroll over to 2014, when according to you, they want to spend in 2014?


Also, with $33M spent on 2 players, where is the money coming from?


https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...MQ&output=html

[Claymation]

I have.


Now tell me why they're moving payroll over to 2014, when according to you, they want to spend in 2014?


Also, with $33M spent on 2 players, where is the money coming from?


https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...MQ&output=html

You haven't answered anything.

What money?
The president of the Mets have said they are spending money in 2014.
He is also the owners son.
If you don't want to believe him, fine don't believe him.

Who is your source that they won't?

[Marty Mcfly]

You haven't answered anything.

What money?
The president of the Mets have said they are spending money in 2014.
He is also the owners son.
If you don't want to believe him, fine don't believe him.

Who is your source that they won't?

Yes I have.

Has he? really? link? what did he say?

How much?


Why would anyone trust what a Wilpon has to say?

[Ramlaen]

I will believe the Mets will spend money again when they actually spend some.

[Marty Mcfly]

I will believe the Mets will spend money again when they actually spend some.

Exactly, until they're just using every excuse in the book not to do so, and moving money over to 2014, so they won't have to spend as much in total this year.

It's a shell game, keep paying off the credit card with another credit card.

[fanofclendennon]

I will believe the Mets will spend money again when they actually spend some.

They'll spend money the next time someone starts guaranteeing them 18 percent returns on all their investments.

Let me know when that happens again.

[metsbulls1025]

Please show me all this money we are moving to next year? David Wright only deferred 3 million dollars this year.

8 years/$138M (2013-20)

signed extension with NY Mets 12/12, replacing option in previous contract

13:$11M, 14:$20M, 15:$20M, 16:$20M, 17:$20M, 18:$20M, 19:$15M, 20:$12M
Wright to defer $15.5M ($3M in 2013 and $2.5M annually in 2014-18), reducing present-day value at signing to $134,015,678

We don't know the full breakdown of Bays buyout yet.

Other than that where is all this money we are moving to 2014? Months ago people had Dickey's 10-12 million for next year. However he was traded. I think Niese gets a 2 million dollar bump.

So your wrong about the money for 2014.

[Marty Mcfly]

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...MQ&output=html

There it is.

I'm not wrong.

[metsbulls1025]

Yeah you are because you don't even have Wrights proper breakdown. So your spread sheet is wrong. You haven't showed me where the money is. We have 3 guys under contract. David Wright, Johan Santana, and Jon Niese. That is 33 million dollars. Niese gets a 2 million dollar bump with his contract. David Wright earns his normal salary. Johan will be bought out so no extra money there.

So again I ask you where all this money is coming from?

[YoungStuna]

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?...MQ&output=html

There it is.

I'm not wrong.

Bay and Santana's buy-outs for next year count towards this year's payroll. The actual payroll numbers are not affected by deferals according to Adam Rubin's source.

There is only $25M on the payroll next year.

[YoungStuna]

Yes I have.

Has he? really? link? what did he say?

How much?


Why would anyone trust what a Wilpon has to say?

No you haven't, you clearly said to me that you have no idea on what to improve the team.

[bofakop]

I have to say not sure yet.

While I am happy with the Dickey trade..and some of the moves we have made to bolster our System, I have about zero faith that our Owners are going to be able to spend any money whatsoever in the coming years to supplement our young players coming up.

I have no problem with them not spending money right now..quite frankly there is not much out there this season...that will make much impact on our team. But with the financial disaster these owners are in..what makes anyone think that they will spend any money in the near future? There is a distinct possibility that when the money comes off the books in the coming years, that they will just not replace it(my biggest fear). Everyone on here seems to be assuming that they will spend money to keep us at a certain payroll level.... What have they done recently to make you so optimistic???

I am a Huge Met fan...have been since the late 60's..and always will be, but I am really having a hard time believing these Owners are willing to spend any money anytime soon(I get the feeling they think that Wrights signing will make everyone content for now)..I SURE HOPE I AM WRONG.

As good as I think that our young players are going to be...it is not enough to make us playoff competitive in the near future without at least a few pretty big free agent signings in the next few years..THERE HAS TO BE A HAPPY MEDIUM OF YOUTH AND VETERAN ADDITIONS TO BE SUCCESSFUL!!

[StoicSentry]

There is only $25M on the payroll next year.

In your opinion, should we expect at least 2 big name free agent signings next year? Just curious, because that's an awfully low figure. In 2012, the lowest total payrolls were San Diego and Oakland with $55m. Surely we will have a larger payroll than that in 2014?

[MetsFanatic19]

I think they'll sign somoene like Hart or Pence and then a few solid players to fill the remaining holes.

[StoicSentry]

I think they'll sign somoene like Hart or Pence and then a few solid players to fill the remaining holes.

Where would that land the payroll? About $60?