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View Poll Results: Should we trade Pau now or hold on to him until 2014?

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  • Trade Pau. Let's try to win this thing now!

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  • This team is hopeless. 2014 is our only chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bren2237 View Post
    Read anything that states the Hawks will even consider that right now? I know I wouldn't if I was Atlanta...would you?

    As Showtym24 stated above, and I did a few posts ago...we can't get **** for Pau right now.
    Of course I wouldn't straight up, if I am Atlanta.

    There are complications however with Smith. He is a FA and they will need to offer him the MAX if they want to keep him. I don't think they can afford to do so.

    If we could work out a 3-4 team deal with Atlanta I think we may be able to get something done.

    We just need 1 team to believe in Pau and according to Larry Coon. Pau still has an immense amount of trade value.

    Gasol < ___________ (fill in the blank) with this team/system/roster

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    Its very clear now that the lakers need a 3rd scorer aside from Dwight and Kobe some one young and athletic that can run. And they need an younger athletic PF that can play solid defense and hit a 15-18 ft consistantly.

    A couple of deals

    #1Pau to Boston for Courtney Lee and Jeff Green

    #2 Pau to Milwakee for Ellis and Ersan Ilyasova

    #3 is a 3team deal
    Lakers get Rudy Gay-Darrell Arthur-Samuel Dalambert
    Bucks get Pau & Tony Allen
    Grizz get Monta Ellis -Metta World Peace

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    3-4 team deal is the way too make it happen.
    #FreeCrooner!!!!

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    Agree with you on all of the above. It'll take some magic on Mitch's part to convince someone to give up enough young talent to Atlanta (or any team for that matter) in exchange for Gasol. Best hope...Minnesota as they have pressure to win now. Maybe Indiana too.

    I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot of scenarios/rumors in the next couple days. A 3 way for Rudy Gay would be perfect!
    Last edited by bren2237; 01-05-2013 at 02:36 AM.

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    If team is sub 500 by all star break:

    1. Trade everyone with more than 1 year except kobe
    2. Get younger for rest of year probably
    3. Sign chris paul with rest of cap space
    4. Sign dwight with bird rights
    5. Start future with 3 HOFers with hardworking championship striving mentality

    This team was meant to win now. If we dont by mid season, whats the point of keeping any of this roster in tact?

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    Need to trade him asap. Before his value drops any lower

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    It really is just a matter of time now..

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    I say take whatever MN offers. They're the only team that REALLY wants him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bren2237 View Post
    Agree with you on all of the above. It'll take some magic on Mitch's part to convince someone to give up enough young talent to Atlanta (or any team for that matter) in exchange for Gasol. Best hope...Minnesota as they have pressure to win now. Maybe Indiana too.

    I'm sure we'll be hearing a lot of scenarios/rumors in the next couple days. A 3 way for Rudy Gay would be perfect!
    I like Rudy Gay a lot, but I dont know if he would be a good fit because he needs a bunch of shots to be effective.

    Josh Smith can fill it up, plays sick *** help defense and is and EXTREMELY underrated passer.

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    I'd take Gallo and Andre Miller at this point... and I hate Gallo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fireworld View Post
    I say take whatever MN offers. They're the only team that REALLY wants him.
    There's about a dozen teams that want him, from what I've read.

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    Here is a trade offer I posted about a month ago:

    Originally Posted by jsthornton7
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bldhdwo

    Atlanta: Monta Ellis, Ryan Anderson, Robert Sacre

    Los Angeles: Josh Smith, Luc Mbah a Moute, Deshawn Stevenson

    Milwaukee: Pau Gasol, Mike Scott, Darius Odom-Johnson

    New Orleans: Larry Sanders, Devin Ebanks

    Why this works for each team:

    Atlanta: They get two borderline all-star players to spread the floor for Al Horford and Jeff Teague is also proving to be a really good PG for Atlanta. We all know what Ryan Anderson can do from the 3 point line, but he also allows Horford room in the paint to operate and is an above average rebounder. Monta Ellis is one of the best scorers in the league and I feel he could do damage as a starter or as a super sub off the bench. The SF position has been a hole for them, but losing 6'5'' Deshawn Stevenson wont be that big of a blow.

    Starters: Jeff Teague, Monta Ellis, Kyle Korver, Ryan Anderson, Al Horford
    Bench: Lou Williams, Anthony Morrow, Ivan Johnson, Zaza Pachulia

    Los Angeles: Getting Josh Smith, Deshawn Stevenson and Luc Mbah a Moute gives the Lakers energy and defense, the two things they have been lacking all season. Josh Smith is a defensive monster who we can pair along with Dwight and he is also an extremely underrated playmaker. Oh yeah, and he a Dwight are very close friends. Stevenson is a good wing defender who can knock down the open three and can play SG and SF. Mbah a Moute is just a pure hustle player who can play SF or PF. This trade not only brings the Lakers energy, but it brings them depth and line-up flexibility.

    Starters: Steve Nash, Kobe Bryant, Metta World Peace, Josh Smith, Dwight Howard
    Bench: Steve Blake, Jodie Meeks, Deshawn Stevenson, Luc Mbah a Moute, Jordan Hill

    Milwaukee: Milwaukee takes on a little more salary with Pau Gasol's trade kicker, but he gives them an experienced big and one of the best post players in the world. Gasol flourishes when he is the only option down low and I think he would pair nicely with Brandon Jennings who is a star in the making at PG. Mike Scott and Darius Odom-Johnson both have non-guaranteed contracts and were thrown in for salary matching purposes. They will most likely be waived. John Henson is the future of this team at PF and will become a very solid defensive foil to Gasol.

    Starters: Brandon Jennings, Marquis Daniels, Mike Dunleavy, Drew Gooden, Pau Gasol
    Bench: Beno Udrih, Tobias Harris, Ersan Ilyasova, John Henson, Samuel Dalembert, Ekpe Udoh

    New Orleans: There are a couple reasons why this trade is made by NO. First off they have a superstar player in Anthony Davis who plays best at PF. He is the one you build around, not Ryan Anderson (as good as he is). No reason for a small market team to pay a backup PF 8.5 million over the next 4 years. Getting Anderson's contract off their books will save them over $64 million over the next 4 years if you factor in luxury tax. Thats why Larry Sanders is so important. He is a PF/C who dominates the boards, is very good defensively, and will allow Davis to develop offensively. A one-two combo of Davis and Sanders patrolling the paint will be a force to be reckoned with. Devin Ebanks is a decent defender who can make cuts and get to the rim, but still needs more developing offensively. If he can focus on basketball, I think he can become a solid NBA player.

    Starters: Greivis Vasquez, Eric Gordon, Al Fariq Aminu, Anthony Davis, Larry Sanders
    Bench: Brian Roberts, Austin Rivers, Devin Ebanks, Jason Smith, Robin Lopez

    Every team gets better by making this trade.
    Last edited by jsthornton7; 01-05-2013 at 02:53 AM.

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    Rudy gay would be awesome! Lobs from nash and wide open 3s from dwight. Can create a shot, good shot d, better transition defender = everything we need. Play metta at 4 and all of a sudden were a good defensive team. I say get him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shep33 View Post
    Need to trade him asap. Before his value drops any lower
    I think it's a bit late to say his value will drop any lower. It's hit the bottom like the economy bro. Should have moved him after the Dallas series.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jsthornton7 View Post
    I like Rudy Gay a lot, but I dont know if he would be a good fit because he needs a bunch of shots to be effective.

    Josh Smith can fill it up, plays sick *** help defense and is and EXTREMELY underrated passer.
    My only concern with Smith is his outside shot. People will respect him as much as Pau and clog up the lane. BUT at least he can cut hard to the basket and make them pay that way. As you said, his upgrade on D and boards would be huge.

    I'm also a little worried about giving him the Max too...but that's for a later conversation.

    Soooo...I'd love to have him, just take a 3 way deal that are very tough to pull off.

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