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    How do you fix the Lakers' defense?

    They've got the fifth best offense in the league, which will only get better with the return of Steve Nash. But the defense, ranted 16th in the league, doesn't look like that of a contender. What needs to be done to improve it?
    The Lakers have the three-time Defensive Player of the Year, perennial dogged defender Metta World Peace and Kobe Bryant.
    Is Pau Gasol, his injuries and his slowness the issue? Will Steve Nash hurt the Lakers the most with his small, old body and complete lack of defense?
    Should Mike D'Antoni be shipped out for a coach that doesn't treat defense like a novelty item?
    Or do the Lakers just need to score a lot more points to solve their issues?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblisterdundee View Post
    They've got the fifth best offense in the league, which will only get better with the return of Steve Nash. But the defense, ranted 16th in the league, doesn't look like that of a contender. What needs to be done to improve it?
    The Lakers have the three-time Defensive Player of the Year, perennial dogged defender Metta World Peace and Kobe Bryant.
    Is Pau Gasol, his injuries and his slowness the issue? Will Steve Nash hurt the Lakers the most with his small, old body and complete lack of defense?
    Should Mike D'Antoni be shipped out for a coach that doesn't treat defense like a novelty item?
    Or do the Lakers just need to score a lot more points to solve their issues?
    It's mostly pace and tempo. Once we stop turning it over and play a balanced offense, in rhythm it will be a lot better. In the 2nd half of tonight's game our defense was a lot better once we slowed the game down and played at our own tempo.

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    The Warriors are a very talented squad so you can't just disregard that and then Jack was just on fire too. Superior offense is always gonna beat defense anyway

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    Pau is the key to our defense or weakness I should say. Unless he brings it every night we're going to be giving up some very easy shots. Opposing teams continually go at Gasol in a pick and roll with a lot of success. If we can just get him to consistently play the pick and roll effectively and also cover Dwight's back with help after penetration then we can be better. There's no reason teams should be scoring in the paint against us the way they have. Dwight's there every night helping the guards but nobody is ever there to cover his.

    Nash is the other obvious problem but there's nothing more that we could do besides put Morris, Kobe, or Artest on athletic scoring PG's and have Nash stay close to an off ball shooter like we saw tonight. This is something the Lakers have done a lot in the past.

    I'm more concerned with Pau's effort and reaction on rotation because that's an area we mostly need consistency from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lakersRule!! View Post
    The Warriors are a very talented squad so you can't just disregard that and then Jack was just on fire too. Superior offense is always gonna beat defense anyway
    That doesn't mean a whole lot in the playoffs if you can't get stops. The shooting comes and goes but as long as there is defensive and rebounding effort you can win every game you play.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme LA View Post
    Pau is the key to our defense or weakness I should say. Unless he brings it every night we're going to be giving up some very easy shots. Opposing teams continually go at Gasol in a pick and roll with a lot of success. If we can just get him to consistently play the pick and roll effectively and also cover Dwight's back with help after penetration then we can be better. There's no reason teams should be scoring in the paint against us the way they have. Dwight's there every night helping the guards but nobody is ever there to cover his.

    Nash is the other obvious problem but there's nothing more that we could do besides put Morris, Kobe, or Artest on athletic scoring PG's and have Nash stay close to an off ball shooter like we saw tonight. This is something the Lakers have done a lot in the past.

    I'm more concerned with Pau's effort and reaction on rotation because that's an area we mostly need consistency from.
    No!

    The key to LA's defense is Kobe Bryant. Because if he doesn't start playing some we're going to get toasted by all of the good teams.

    He's faking it on defense, and then relying on our bigs to bail him out. Which is exactly what you're doing by saying Pau -- Pau! -- is the key to our defense.

    Our keys are:

    1) No-excuses team defense from everyone. If you don't show up, you hear about it.

    2) Funneling everything to Howard through team defense, and using Metta, Hill and Pau to back Howard up.

    We don't have enough speed to play man-on-man. We don't have enough youth and energy to recover if we get beat. Except maybe Howard, when he's not sitting on the bench because he's in foul trouble.

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    Easy. Tell them that there is 12 minutes left and they're down by 10 before the game starts. Why we choose to play defense late in games is baffling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Supreme LA View Post

    Nash is the other obvious problem but there's nothing more that we could do besides put Morris, Kobe, or Artest on athletic scoring PG's and have Nash stay close to an off ball shooter like we saw tonight. This is something the Lakers have done a lot in the past.
    I always come back to wondering why the Lakers didn't even try to get Goran Dragic, Kyle Lowry or Jeremy Lin. They could have realistically had any of the three. They all would have been more than a decade younger than Steve Nash, more than good enough to run the point, better on defense and at the perfect point in their careers to fit in with the transition to Dwight Howard.
    I think any of the three would have been good enough to help the Lakers win a championship this and next season, too, not wasting the time that Kobe Bryant has left.

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    The way the Lakers can fix their defense is by actually playing defense...

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    Must covet more defensive minded players, However that goes against D'Antoni's whole coaching theory. He feels it's just as easy to just outscore the other team. D'Antoni's theory is winning 110-108 is the same as winning 92-90.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrblisterdundee View Post
    I always come back to wondering why the Lakers didn't even try to get Goran Dragic, Kyle Lowry or Jeremy Lin. They could have realistically had any of the three. They all would have been more than a decade younger than Steve Nash, more than good enough to run the point, better on defense and at the perfect point in their careers to fit in with the transition to Dwight Howard.
    I think any of the three would have been good enough to help the Lakers win a championship this and next season, too, not wasting the time that Kobe Bryant has left.
    What? They couldn't have gotten them and they are average players that bring nothing special.

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    Did you guys notice with Nash back there wasn't as much fast break by opponent then when Nash was out. What im saying is less turnover and bad shots leading to leak outs when Nash is back. So that essentially betters our defence because were not that bad of a half court defence team.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAKobeBryant View Post
    Did you guys notice with Nash back there wasn't as much fast break by opponent then when Nash was out. What im saying is less turnover and bad shots leading to leak outs when Nash is back. So that essentially betters our defence because were not that bad of a half court defence team.
    We had 20 turn-overs that game with Nash....Granted he only accounted for 3..... but his +/- was a -3

    Ya it was his first game back, but the offense or defense didn't look any different from when Morris or Duhon start at the PG position
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    The coaching decision to bring in d'antoni told me the Lakers choose to be entertaining, not a championship contender.


    Therefore there is nothing to fix, this is who they are. A bad defensive team.

    If they don't outscore their opponents, they will lose.
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