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    Great Article From A Former Jet!

    How the New York Jets Can Transform from a joke to a Juggernaut
    By Ryan Riddle

    As a former member of the New York Jets, let’s just say I still have a lingering sentimental connection to the organization, despite their recent Monday night embarrassment posing as a real NFL offense—though we all know they’re far from it.

    This has obviously been an especially tough year for both Jets fans and players, to say the least. Offensively, the Jets have been as dangerous as a rubber band in a gun fight. They rank 30th in total yards (302 per game), 28th in points scored (18.2), 31st in yards per play (4.7), 22nd in first downs per game (18.7) and 27th in turnover ratio (minus-11).

    The Jets are clearly on the decline and have been since last year, which has either been caused by or correlates with the late-season team implosion of 2011, spearheaded by Santonio Holmes.

    Sure, we might be tempted to point to the numerous injuries the Jets have incurred this season as reason for their significant drop-off in production. But they happen to every team on some level. The Jets did a poor job building a team with quality depth, which was the result of making terrible personnel and salary-cap decisions.

    The 11-5 season of 2010 is beginning to feel more like a lifetime ago with each passing week. But who is to blame for turning this once-proud and maybe even arrogant organization into the joke it has now become?

    And what could possibly be done to change things around so that the Jets may fly high yet again?

    In my opinion, it all starts with one man.

    Mike Tannenbaum’s record as a general manager since taking over in 2006 is 51-45, he has achieved this while appointing and overseeing two separate head coaches. He has seven playoff appearances, including two conference championships. Yet, it’s beginning to look now like Tannenbaum will have to fire his second coach in only seven seasons.

    And every time he decides to fire a coach he hired, he’s essentially weakening his own justification to remain the general manager of the Jets in the end.

    Tannenbaum’s biggest weakness, from what I can tell after having played under him, talked to him and listened to the way he thinks, is he is not a very experienced evaluator of talent. His background has been predominantly centered on tinkering with salary-cap issues and player contracts. It is in this area that Tannenbaum is most natural.

    As a result, it has become very common for Tannenbaum to elicit advice from his coaching staff (whoever that coach may be at the moment).

    This symbiotic relationship between coach and GM occurs on some level across the NFL, but Tannenbaum is far too dependent on the guidance of others in order to make any decisions focused on the actual evaluation of talent, how a player fits in a scheme and what the strengths and weaknesses of that player are.

    He only really asserts his expertise when it comes time to negotiate a contract or play with the salary cap.

    A perfect example is my own arrival and departure in New York. I was brought in and signed based on Rob Ryan referring me to his former colleague and Jets head coach at the time, Eric Mangini. Then I was released, primarily because the special teams coach, Mike Westhoff, had other fringe players valued higher than me in regard to special teams contributions.

    Tannenbaum was merely a guy signing off on the decisions of other people’s preferences. In this particular case, it was the coaches. This pattern has been repeated numerous times over the years.

    This style of team-building tends to result in short-term thinking, void of any semblance of a “master plan.” It’s like trying to make a good movie simply by seeing how many famous movie stars you can add to the cast, though having a great script is the key to success.

    Another concern with Tannenbaum’s GM style is his detrimental attraction to big-name vets with costly paychecks, whether that is free-agent re-signings or a new addition to the team. Tannenbaum consistently sacrifices depth in order to solidify a specific position with a guy who is deemed capable.

    Many issues are layered into this. Guys like Bryan Thomas were paid pretty big money to bring a pass rush to the defense. The only problem is, he’s not a very good pass-rusher. Anyone with even mild evaluation ability should have been able to see this, but the year he signed his extension happened to be just after he had 7.5 sacks.

    Paying Mark Sanchez that guaranteed contract seemed like a bad idea from the start, yet somehow Tannenbaum felt it was smart, seemingly because it could help Sanchez’s confidence and trust in the organization after the Jets made a push for Peyton Manning. Certainly ridiculous reasons to guarantee a struggling quarterback over $8 million in 2013

    Bringing in Tim Tebow was also a huge mistake that could have been sniffed out well before execution. Yet Tannenbaum decided to green-light this experiment without even considering how it would undermine his other intention, which was to restore Sanchez’s confidence and faith in the organization.

    In regard to building through the draft, there has been some success by Tannenbaum through the years. Some of his draft highlights include D'Brickashaw Ferguson and Nick Mangold, who were both first-round selections in the 2006 draft. Then came Darrelle Revis as the 14th pick overall in 2007. Muhammad Wilkerson is a burgeoning star and was a good first-round pick in 2011 as well.

    Since Tannenbaum took over as the GM in 2006, 22 drafted players are still on the roster; however, four out of the 22 are from the 2012 draft class, which isn’t saying very much. Ten of those 22 have been predominantly starting for the Jets this year. But of those 10, we find guys like Sanchez and Shonn Greene.

    These guys were drafted with the intention to be cornerstones of the franchise, but they have since dragged the organization down by not living up to expectations, especially Sanchez.

    Here is a quote from a recent article on NFL.com:

    Since Week 1 of the 2011 season, New York Jets quarterback Mark Sanchez has played in a total of 30 games and committed 50 giveaways. By comparison, it has taken New England Patriots quarterback Tom Brady a total of 76 games to commit 50 giveaways, a period dating back to October of 2007.

    Ultimately, all blame must begin and end with the man in charge of all football decisions, and that man is Tannenbaum. He is even responsible for everything Rex Ryan is and isn’t as a head coach.

    So with that in mind, let’s examine Ryan a bit here as well.

    When Rex was brought in as the head coach of the Jets in 2009, it was clear early on that things were at least going to be interesting based purely on his press conferences, if nothing else. But Rex also brought some much-needed fun and energy to the Jets players—guys who had been edging closer to having their spirit beaten from them the previous regime.

    Ryan’s player-friendly coaching style was nearly the exact opposite of Eric Mangini’s strict, militaristic presence.

    I had long ago predicted immediate success for the Jets in light of Rex’s hiring as head coach due to the balance the Jets could achieve in transitioning between two polar-opposite coaches. I figured just enough of Mangini's influence would carry over into the Rex Ryan regime and make for a very special blend of coaching.

    However, I also believed that the Mangini influence would soon fade away from the organization, leaving the players with an extreme version of a player’s coach who doesn’t overly work his guys and is very concerned with being liked.

    Mangini, conversely, didn't need to be liked by his players. Respect was plenty adequate for him, and he would work his players to near death, both on and off the field.

    With that said, Rex had always done a nice job with his defenses over the years, even without the game’s most dominant cornerback in Revis. But Ryan’s media relations and his generally lax attitude are catching up with him, as he is now quickly losing his players.

    Rex also made a costly decision in bringing in Tony Sparano to be the offensive coordinator. Sparano has shown little to no creativity in his play-calling and has also been surprisingly inept at the translation of plays from practice to the game. That tells me his methods of teaching and/or installing the plays are not very effective.

    Perhaps Rex’s biggest mistake has been the way he has handled his quarterback situation. His decision to continue to play Sanchez all the way up until Week 14 of the 2012 season means that he was far more than a year too late on trying some other options at the position.

    Tebow, for instance, could have helped the Jets offense much more if he were used properly, and I don’t mean as a pure passer. I’m talking about read-options and pistol formations. Give Tebow the ability to run or pass based on the defense rather than predetermined option plays designed to have him run just off-tackle into a pile of defenders.

    Sanchez played enough subpar-to-terrible games over the season to have allowed room for a true quarterback competition. This could have given the offense a spark and might have been the difference between a few wins and losses.

    Instead, we had to listen to Ryan’s weekly edition of overly forced support of Sanchez, all to avoid a circus in the Big Apple. Well, if you don’t want a circus, then don’t buy the elephants and the clowns.

    So, what can be done to fix this ailing franchise as its vital signs drop dangerously low?

    Obviously, the Jets need a reliable quarterback. Sanchez is virtually untradeable and will just have to be released. New York will have to bite that bullet on his guaranteed money and just move on.

    But who replaces Sanchez? Not Tebow, he will need to be released or possibly traded for a late-round draft pick.

    Greg McElroy is not the long-term answer either, but he may be serviceable as a reliable backup.

    Rumors pointing toward Mike Vick coming to N.Y. (via Ian Rapoport of NFL.com) are fun to entertain and perhaps quite possible. But Vick is not the quarterback who will save the Jets. The Jets need a guy who truly understands how to manage a game, a guy who allows a good defense to do its job and doesn’t turn the ball over.

    That man is Alex Smith. He would be a great temporary fix in N.Y. as they wait to pick and groom their future franchise quarterback.

    The Jets also need to address their deficiencies at the offensive skill positions soon. The best solution to this problem is to accumulate as many draft picks as possible and go with quantity. Hopefully, they can get a couple stars and maybe even a decent starter or two out of it.

    Trading Santonio Holmes for a draft pick or two would be a fantastic idea. He is a cancer to the team and a terrible leader who isn’t worth what he brings in production. He should also generate a decent return in trade value.

    If Revis returns from injury asking record-breaking contract numbers, the Jets should try their hardest to convince him to sign for less. If that fails, they need to be OK with letting him walk. When a player becomes so expensive that it prevents you from improving your team in several other areas, that player is no longer worth the price.

    Somehow, some way, the Jets are going to have to add a couple of legitimate pass-rushers to this defense. This might be via free agency, draft or even trade. But it must happen. Three players (David Harris, Quinton Coples, Wilkerson) are leading the team in sacks with only four each—terrible.

    As for Rex, give him one more year. Fire Sparano and bring in an offensive coordinator with some imagination who can design an offense within the framework of Rex’s philosophy.

    But as for Tannenbaum, the creator of this mess...

    He is under contract through 2014.

    He has made too many crucial mistakes in both evaluating talent and managing the salary cap. He needs to be fired and replaced with a guy like Bill Polian, who has a rare ability to see and understand the game from almost every angle. If the Jets could retain his services even in an advisor role, that would be extremely valuable.

    The time is now for the Jets to bring in a real football genius.

    Tannenbaum is not the answer.
    Agree with all of this
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    A lot of good points in that article especially about Tanny not being the answer for us at GM and Alex Smith as a possibility in the offseason. I prefer him over another turnover machine in Michael Vick


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    Quote Originally Posted by Crom-Viscera View Post
    A lot of good points in that article especially about Tanny not being the answer for us at GM and Alex Smith as a possibility in the offseason. I prefer him over another turnover machine in Michael Vick
    I disagree. A. Smith is a system QB not a franchise QB. Smith needs a solid running game to be affective, something we don't have. I like M. Vick as an option. He's a franchise QB that can lead you to the playoff. If you watched alot of his games those TO was do to his lack of protection. I saw games when he snapped the ball took two steps & was hit...hard. Most of the time he was in the pocket taken a beating!

    I do agree on getting alot of draft picks. Hopefully they can trade Tebow to Jacksonville for a 5,6 or 7 round pick. Use 1 or 2 picks to draft a OL to protest whoever is the QB. A few WR with speed to spread the field. IMO that's why sanchez failed. He wasn't a deep threat so team keyed on the fact that they didn't have a vertical game. A Defensive line men that can munster more than 4 sacks...Horrible!!! but there are some FA that may help.

    Jets are limited but not out. My sleeper is Stephen Jackson whom the Rams are gonna waive at the end of the season. He still got some game left but isn't elite (so they say) so hopefully he wont want big money to play here & has a chip on his shoulder. Greg Jennings would be a good fit. I wouldn't trade Holmes yet bc Vick can spread the field & that is what Holmes is really good at. D Freenzy!?! I would sell my mother for him for 2-3 seasons. With him wilkerson numbers would go up. Jason Babin could be had for a good price.

    Maybe I just a BIG JETS HOMER but I don't think we are that far from a AFC championship. We just need better skill players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerfan In NY View Post
    I disagree. A. Smith is a system QB not a franchise QB. Smith needs a solid running game to be affective, something we don't have. I like M. Vick as an option. He's a franchise QB that can lead you to the playoff. If you watched alot of his games those TO was do to his lack of protection. I saw games when he snapped the ball took two steps & was hit...hard. Most of the time he was in the pocket taken a beating!

    I do agree on getting alot of draft picks. Hopefully they can trade Tebow to Jacksonville for a 5,6 or 7 round pick. Use 1 or 2 picks to draft a OL to protest whoever is the QB. A few WR with speed to spread the field. IMO that's why sanchez failed. He wasn't a deep threat so team keyed on the fact that they didn't have a vertical game. A Defensive line men that can munster more than 4 sacks...Horrible!!! but there are some FA that may help.

    Jets are limited but not out. My sleeper is Stephen Jackson whom the Rams are gonna waive at the end of the season. He still got some game left but isn't elite (so they say) so hopefully he wont want big money to play here & has a chip on his shoulder. Greg Jennings would be a good fit. I wouldn't trade Holmes yet bc Vick can spread the field & that is what Holmes is really good at. D Freenzy!?! I would sell my mother for him for 2-3 seasons. With him wilkerson numbers would go up. Jason Babin could be had for a good price.

    Maybe I just a BIG JETS HOMER but I don't think we are that far from a AFC championship. We just need better skill players.
    Funny how Vick's TO's were due to lack of protection, but when people said they same thing about Sanchez they were "apologists."

    The knife cuts both ways. Both were very stupid with the football. Vick has a history of turning the ball over, and has had on above average year in his career. Vick is NOT a franchise QB, and certainly not anymore if he ever was.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo View Post
    Funny how Vick's TO's were due to lack of protection, but when people said they same thing about Sanchez they were "apologists."

    The knife cuts both ways. Both were very stupid with the football. Vick has a history of turning the ball over, and has had on above average year in his career. Vick is NOT a franchise QB, and certainly not anymore if he ever was.
    I agree with this post. Vick at his peak was a great runner, who could throw the ball deep. Bringing in Vick won't get this team to a Super Bowl for a couple of reasons. First, he turns the ball over way too much. The second reason is that he is going to spend close to half of the season on the bench because of either a head or rib injury.

    The article posted did have some good ideas. Bringing in Alex Smith as a stop gap would be fine if Rex Ryan stays as head coach. Smith is the exact type of QB Ryan wants to have, but if Smith does sign, the Jets have to find a better RB. I also agree with trading Holmes. Hopefully the Jets could get some nice value for him and could move forward with a FA veteran WR (maybe Edwards if he shows promise) and Hill (who appeared to be making strides before his LCL sprain). Another player I would look to trade is Harris or at the very least renegotiate his contract. He is being paid like a top LB when he isn't.

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    The Jets need to fire Tanny ASAP. I hate when people keep saying demote him and **** and let him be the cap specialist. Hello!!! are you guys serious, cap specialist? He signed Sanchez to a god awful deal, Harris is getting paid the highest next year on our team when he clearly is not our best player and for the past 3 seasons we have been in cap hell. His drafts have been mediocre and he doesn't know how to build depth. This guy is a terrible GM and has to go.

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    I believe one of the biggest things with the Jets drafts is that they have a lot of players who are not ready to step in if a "big name" comes up for free agency, forcing the Jets to spend more than needed. I know Cromartie has been a god-send for the Jets, but when the Jets drafted CB Kyle Wilson in round 1, he should have been in a position where the following season, the Jets could have let Cromartie go, slid Wilson in opposite Revis, and saved 8 million a season in order to address other needs.

    Or like Ducasse; he should have been in a position right now where LG or RG, whichever one you prefer, should have been taken care of with Ducasse. Let's be honest, this off-season, LG, RG, and RT are going to have to be addressed.

    Take Stephen Hill; he should also be in a position where WR should not be as big of a need as it is probably going to be.

    As for David Harris, I think our standards for him are a bit too high; 108 tackles, 4 sacks, 1 FF, 1 FR, 3 PD. I can only speak for myself, but I will gladly take that year in and year out from Harris and we still have 2 games left.

    I do agree on what he says with the Pass rush-- The Jets have 26 sacks as a team and guys like Aldon Smith and JJ Watt alone have 19.5.

    I think what this article states though is that the Jets issues go beyond just Mark Sanchez and the QB position. I don't think the Jets are fixed overnight and it may be a couple years before something materializes in a positive way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    I believe one of the biggest things with the Jets drafts is that they have a lot of players who are not ready to step in if a "big name" comes up for free agency, forcing the Jets to spend more than needed. I know Cromartie has been a god-send for the Jets, but when the Jets drafted CB Kyle Wilson in round 1, he should have been in a position where the following season, the Jets could have let Cromartie go, slid Wilson in opposite Revis, and saved 8 million a season in order to address other needs.

    Or like Ducasse; he should have been in a position right now where LG or RG, whichever one you prefer, should have been taken care of with Ducasse. Let's be honest, this off-season, LG, RG, and RT are going to have to be addressed.

    Take Stephen Hill; he should also be in a position where WR should not be as big of a need as it is probably going to be.

    As for David Harris, I think our standards for him are a bit too high; 108 tackles, 4 sacks, 1 FF, 1 FR, 3 PD. I can only speak for myself, but I will gladly take that year in and year out from Harris and we still have 2 games left.

    I do agree on what he says with the Pass rush-- The Jets have 26 sacks as a team and guys like Aldon Smith and JJ Watt alone have 19.5.

    I think what this article states though is that the Jets issues go beyond just Mark Sanchez and the QB position. I don't think the Jets are fixed overnight and it may be a couple years before something materializes in a positive way.
    Anyone who can't see that is more blind than my namesake.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo View Post
    Anyone who can't see that is more blind than my namesake.
    You have some Magoo that think you get rid of Sanchez, all the Jets offensive problems go away. I think some people are going to be very surprised by how little a difference McElroy makes Sunday. I hope I am wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    You have some Magoo that think you get rid of Sanchez, all the Jets offensive problems go away. I think some people are going to be very surprised by how little a difference McElroy makes Sunday. I hope I am wrong
    Well he might make a difference because he'll have a completely different game plan than Sanchez did, and the Chargers defense is soft.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerfan In NY View Post
    I disagree. A. Smith is a system QB not a franchise QB. Smith needs a solid running game to be affective, something we don't have. I like M. Vick as an option. He's a franchise QB that can lead you to the playoff. If you watched alot of his games those TO was do to his lack of protection. I saw games when he snapped the ball took two steps & was hit...hard. Most of the time he was in the pocket taken a beating!
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    I think his point is that the Jets should take a solid game manager while it rebuilds. Sorry, but Vick is not a long term answer, and the Jets' porous OL will lead to similar TO numbers. Smith could do a good job for 2-3 years while the Jets draft/trade/groom a true future franchise QB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lakerfan In NY View Post
    I disagree. A. Smith is a system QB not a franchise QB. Smith needs a solid running game to be affective, something we don't have. I like M. Vick as an option. He's a franchise QB that can lead you to the playoff. If you watched alot of his games those TO was do to his lack of protection. I saw games when he snapped the ball took two steps & was hit...hard. Most of the time he was in the pocket taken a beating!

    I do agree on getting alot of draft picks. Hopefully they can trade Tebow to Jacksonville for a 5,6 or 7 round pick. Use 1 or 2 picks to draft a OL to protest whoever is the QB. A few WR with speed to spread the field. IMO that's why sanchez failed. He wasn't a deep threat so team keyed on the fact that they didn't have a vertical game. A Defensive line men that can munster more than 4 sacks...Horrible!!! but there are some FA that may help.

    Jets are limited but not out. My sleeper is Stephen Jackson whom the Rams are gonna waive at the end of the season. He still got some game left but isn't elite (so they say) so hopefully he wont want big money to play here & has a chip on his shoulder. Greg Jennings would be a good fit. I wouldn't trade Holmes yet bc Vick can spread the field & that is what Holmes is really good at. D Freenzy!?! I would sell my mother for him for 2-3 seasons. With him wilkerson numbers would go up. Jason Babin could be had for a good price.

    Maybe I just a BIG JETS HOMER but I don't think we are that far from a AFC championship. We just need better skill players.
    The article clearly states that we get game manager, Alex Smith, while we rebuild the team, AND look to acquire our true franchise QB - what I call "the great QB," that a team needs to be a perennial contender - AND VICK IS NEITHER OF THOSE!

    Here's his quote, "That man is Alex Smith. He would be a great temporary fix in N.Y. as they wait to pick and groom their future franchise quarterback."

    Even us Jet Homers know we're nowhere near an AFC Championship. We can be competitive with a guy like Smith - IF - we start building an explosive offense - all the while looking for that "great QB," and when we find him - the team will be in place for him to make us a perennial powerhouse.

    We need to build through the draft, and be willing to cut average players that have been on the team awhile, rather than give them their next contract. It is so clear, that to be more than a "one and done" playoff team - and wait another several years to become a "one and done" playoff team, we need a "great QB," with a high powered offense, strong pass rush and as strong a defense as we can develop without sacrificing our high powered offense - and we can't have a high powered offense without having a "great QB!" It won't happen overnight - but it can happen - just not with this GM/HC/OC? current QBs, RBs, WRs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jetsfansince'67 View Post
    The article clearly states that we get game manager, Alex Smith, while we rebuild the team, AND look to acquire our true franchise QB - what I call "the great QB," that a team needs to be a perennial contender - AND VICK IS NEITHER OF THOSE!

    Here's his quote, "That man is Alex Smith. He would be a great temporary fix in N.Y. as they wait to pick and groom their future franchise quarterback."

    Even us Jet Homers know we're nowhere near an AFC Championship. We can be competitive with a guy like Smith - IF - we start building an explosive offense - all the while looking for that "great QB," and when we find him - the team will be in place for him to make us a perennial powerhouse.

    We need to build through the draft, and be willing to cut average players that have been on the team awhile, rather than give them their next contract. It is so clear, that to be more than a "one and done" playoff team - and wait another several years to become a "one and done" playoff team, we need a "great QB," with a high powered offense, strong pass rush and as strong a defense as we can develop without sacrificing our high powered offense - and we can't have a high powered offense without having a "great QB!" It won't happen overnight - but it can happen - just not with this GM/HC/OC? current QBs, RBs, WRs.

    GO JETS!!!

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    There are no franchise QBs avail except for possibly Flynn, and no one knows how good he really is.

    Smith may be a game manager but he will NOT win games for you, if the running game is stagnant.
    Vick can.

    Alex Smith is no better a temporary option than Michael Vick is, only difference is that Michael Vick could, and I stress the word "could", be good enough to take the Jets to the playoffs on the strength of his play.
    Smith can't.

    My preference would be Vick over Smith, BUT the Jets could do alot worse than Alex Smith.

    Besides no matter where they currently look, the Jets need to find a young gun to groom.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    You have some Magoo that think you get rid of Sanchez, all the Jets offensive problems go away. I think some people are going to be very surprised by how little a difference McElroy makes Sunday. I hope I am wrong
    Problem with this is a 7th rounder shouldnt make a difference over a 1st rounder. The Jets offense was exactly the same with Mcelroy today as it was all year with Sanchez.

    Not sure how much anyone could have really expected from a 7th rounder making his first NFL start.

    It looks like the Jets have zero NFL starting calibre Qb's on the roster.

    Once the Jets can find a starting calibre QB then they can begin to address the offense.

    untill then the Jets will be ground and punt.


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    Quote Originally Posted by GreenLantern View Post
    Problem with this is a 7th rounder shouldnt make a difference over a 1st rounder. The Jets offense was exactly the same with Mcelroy today as it was all year with Sanchez.

    Not sure how much anyone could have really expected from a 7th rounder making his first NFL start.

    It looks like the Jets have zero NFL starting calibre Qb's on the roster.

    Once the Jets can find a starting calibre QB then they can begin to address the offense.

    untill then the Jets will be ground and punt.
    There may be only about 2 or 3 QB's in the NFL today who could make a difference on the Jets as they are currently constructed. Peyton Manning is really the only one who I can honestly say I would trust to make this team better.


    The only difference between McElroy's performance and what we get from Sanchez is that it took GMAC until later in the game to try to force something that isn't there. Then again, he hasn't been frustrated by this offense and boo'd by the home crowd all year long.


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