Morrow will be the #2 and is the most talented.
Morrow will be the #2 but Johnson is the most talented.
Johnson will be the #2 and is the most talented.
Johnson will be the #2 but Morrow is the most talented.
I would put Morrow in the 2 spot only because JJ will have to face 9 hitters instead of 8 this year. Having no break in the lineup might take some getting used to.
We don't even know for sure what we have with Josh Johnson yet. We know Morrow can throw complete games and keep the score low. To me there is no question he is our #2.
Very few pitchers are able to induce weak contact enough to make any meaningful drop under .300 babip. Knuckleballers seem to be the best at it, but they are still generally in and around the .270's. Out of regular pitchers one of the best seems to be Buehrle, who has a .289 career babip. So, if he's one of the best at it, how could a babip of .252 be anything other than luck?
'ease' has nothing to do with it. Luck does. And, it happens all the time over small samples of 120 inningsit's not easy to put up a BAPIP like that over than many innings.
PR talk is pretty meaningless.Johnson said it himself(prior to Dickey) that Morrow was the ace of the staff.
Modern pitchers include:
Jeremy Hellickson (244 career, but 2 years at 260) - Change Up thrown 29.9% of the time.
Charlie Hough - 253 BABIP, knuckleball
Matt Cain - Change up is one of his top pitches.
Shaun Marcum - 268 BABIP...and known for his change.
Jered Weaver - Change up is his next best pitch
Barry Zito - Better known for his curve, his change has been one of his best pitches. Also has played in spacious parks allowing them to cut down on the BABIP.
Ted Lilly - Another change up guy.
Johan Santana - Famous for, you guessed it, the change up.
Tim Wakefield - 274 BABIP over that time, and throws a knuckler.
There are exceptions, but generally speaking you need to have a change up or knuckleball, a pitch that can mess with a hitters timing and succeeds because of that in order to have a lower than average BABIP. Guys like Morrow who pile on the strikeouts generally aren't able to reduce the BABIP consistently.
Makes sense when you think about it - when Morrow succeeds it's by getting strikeouts, which aren't included in BABIP because it's not a ball put in play. If Morrow allows contact then the hitter gets it right on, making solid contact. A guy like Marcum doesn't allow as much "solid contact" as someone like Morrow, because the hitter is looking fastball and ends up hitting a change. Morrow doesn't change speeds as much, which is why the hitter could make more consistent/solid contact.
I don't want this to sound like Marcum or change up pitchers are better than Morrow, just that they succeed in different ways. And it's just not likely that Morrow's success will be based on posting a low BABIP. And I just don't see Morrow coming close to a 250 BABIP ever again.
Vic Mackey: You better figure out how much you hate me. And how you're going to deal with that. 'Cause I'm not going anywhere.
To think we started last year with:
Carreno went to LV, Laffey came up.
I guess a little levity concerning last years staff didn't work.
Just imagine having both Morrow and JJ at the top of their game.ray:
I really don't know who would be better.
I love the mix of styles and l/r, from knuckle to RH power to LH back to RH power to another LH to knuckle. If there's any real benefit to staggering types of pitcher from day to day (not sure if it really makes any difference, kinda like overblown myth of lineup protection IMO.)
Damn April can't come fast enough.
I don't think it really makes much of a difference except in the ego department. I would give it to Johnson based on previous track record, but in the grand scheme of things it's just a number and means very little.
I will say it's a nice problem to have.
R.A. Dickey -- Fear the "Canuckleball"!
"AL East, you have been warned."
If jj's shoulder issues are behind him and his velocity ticks back up, watch out, scary stuff.