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    Salty + Melancon to Pit for Hanrahan.
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    Salty, Morales & a B or C prospect for Hanrahan
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    Can't say this is very intriguing. Don't like any of the stats mentioned for Hanrahan, and I don't know enough about Jones (other then looking at his Cody Ross-like stats).

    Why bother trading for a meh RP (Malancon part 2?) and a Ross-comp... when you can just sign Ross and keep the specs?

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    Bags --

    You really see Jones as being a legit #5 hitter here? I usually keep my mouth shut when I don't know enough about a subject, lol... but looking at his stats, he's roughly 31yrs old with only a few years MLB experience, and his best year is basically Cody Ross. What am I missing? (other then never seeing him play )
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    Quote Originally Posted by JPBoston View Post
    Bags --

    You really see Jones as being a legit #5 hitter here? I usually keep my mouth shut when I don't know enough about a subject, lol... but looking at his stats, he's roughly 31yrs old with only a few years MLB experience, and his best year is basically Cody Ross. What am I missing? (other then never seeing him play )
    Depends on who else we have of course, but against RHP last year he was:

    .289/.332/.556

    He's a pull hitter, so the HR's might go down in Fenway, but the 2B's should go well up. I'd trust him more in the #5 slot than WMB - against RHP. Like I said against LHP he should be on the bench or at the bottom of the line-up.


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    Based on numbers alone, why trade for Hanrahan when you can probably sign Brian Wilson and lose nothing but cash if or when he doesn't pan out like Hanrahan would in Boston.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TragicallyHip View Post
    Based on numbers alone, why trade for Hanrahan when you can probably sign Brian Wilson and lose nothing but cash if or when he doesn't pan out like Hanrahan would in Boston.
    His advantage is being a closer for 2 years. I think he's better than the last closer they moved on from - Capps - but he's not the answer here except as a set-up guy. Certainly nothing to over pay for. I still like Jones as mostly platoon RF after Ells is dealt off.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

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    Jones protects McCutchen against RHP, something they need. He's probably not available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    His advantage is being a closer for 2 years. I think he's better than the last closer they moved on from - Capps - but he's not the answer here except as a set-up guy. Certainly nothing to over pay for. I still like Jones as mostly platoon RF after Ells is dealt off.
    That's partially my point, why give away talent (albeit, not that great) for something that you can basically substitute for with the probability of similar results and have it only cost you cash.

    I'm not opposed to trading Salty or anyone on the roster for that matter, but not in this deal when there's comparable FA's on the market.
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    With people throwing out the idea of Salty, Pit would have no interest in him.

    They signed Russell Martin to a 2 year deal at 7.5 Mil per. They will be playing him at catcher.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lackeyfan41 View Post
    With people throwing out the idea of Salty, Pit would have no interest in him.

    They signed Russell Martin to a 2 year deal at 7.5 Mil per. They will be playing him at catcher.
    That's the claim. He'll be DH'ing in AL cities and playing some 1B too (Pirates are weak there). I'd be surprised if Martin caught more than about 115 games on average the next two years.

    Barajas is the former starter and he's gone. McHenry was the back-up (and ex Sox farm hand) who doesn't SLG like Salty, nor have as good an arm. His advantage is control through 2018.

    Too bad, the market for Salty seems to be about as limited as the opinions of most here have on his abilities.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

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    no thanks to hanrahan.. Jones would be cool I guess, but if he's going to cost us something close to webster I say no way. Hanrahan had one good year, he's got high walk rates, and is worse than Bailey who deserves a fresh start this year.


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    Quote Originally Posted by bagwell368 View Post
    His advantage is being a closer for 2 years. I think he's better than the last closer they moved on from - Capps - but he's not the answer here except as a set-up guy. Certainly nothing to over pay for. I still like Jones as mostly platoon RF after Ells is dealt off.
    Why would that be an advantage over signing Brian Wilson and not giving up specs?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedSoxtober View Post
    Why would that be an advantage over signing Brian Wilson and not giving up specs?
    I left out the snark. I have always disliked Capps.

    In the second half of what you quoted I wrote:

    "but he's not the answer here except as a set-up guy. Certainly nothing to over pay for. I still like Jones as mostly platoon RF after Ells is dealt off."

    I think that's the answer. If he comes cheap (meaning our full pen of meh RP's sort of pieces), and/or meh specs. Great. But he's not worth over paying for.

    As for Wilson, the medicals tell all on that decision.


    6/27/09: “We expect [Rondo] to play by the rules and be a leader as a point guard. We need him to be more of a leader,” Ainge said. “There were just a couple situations where he was late this year, I don’t know if he was sitting in his car, but showed up late and the rest of the team was there. We have team rules and you have to be on time. He was fined for being late, he said he was stuck in traffic, and it’s just unacceptable.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZHawk1123 View Post
    Salt, Aceves for Hanrahan?
    Why would they want Salty?

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    Theyre trading Hanrahan because they arent resigning him next offseason, so why woud they trade a rental for a rental like Salty. Makes no sense.

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