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    Quote Originally Posted by SanAntonioSpurs23 View Post
    Hell no, don't you remember when Green played the 3 earlier this season? He was downright dreadful. He struggled guarding opposing Sf's and his shot went completely M.I.A.

    I'm still 100% against trading S-Jax (unless you are getting some star in return). I have a feeling he is just coasting right now. Jack has proved more often than not that he can "still make love to pressure" in the PO. His toughness is something we need. You don't trade him especially for a small when we already have a log jam there.
    I'm with you on that. I'm not looking too much into his shooting slump cause he outright said it's hard shooting with 2 fingers taped together. He's still adjusting to that. I know once that comes off or he gets better adjusted (which ever comes first) he'll be fine. Plus he is still aggressive, will still try and post up smaller defenders and does a good job of being physical and rebounding.

    He's like Horry was. Horry would have tough stretches but you could bank on him coming through and hitting big shots in the playoffs.

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    I like what Jackson brings and wouldn't trade him just to make a move, but ruling it out is just silly. He's not Lebron James.
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    no offense but the Spurs are freakin' communists bro. They should get with Stern's capitalist agenda like NOW




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    Quote Originally Posted by Giraffes Rule View Post
    I like what Jackson brings and wouldn't trade him just to make a move, but ruling it out is just silly. He's not Lebron James.
    No doubt, if it lands up someone who can make an immediate impact then it would be a different story.

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    Okay, this conversation has about hit its limits (because I too doubt very much that Jackson will be moved) but I will throw out a couple more things in light of what has been said.

    First, I don't get to watch the games: live in Indiana and don't have cable. So outside of watching highlights and catching the rare game at a friends house, I base all of my interpretations on "numbers". I don't love it but that is what I am stuck with. And according to these numbers, Green can fill the 3. Yes his offense was down, but according to 82games his defense was not down and the production of the competition was off. Opp SF shot less than 43% and had a PER of 10.9. I don't know who this 'competition' was but those are pretty solid numbers. Compared to the 54% and 15.5PER that he is allowing at the 2. Once again, I don't believe that numbers tell the whole story, and it is helpful to hear you say how bad it looked, but these numbers are what I was going off of.

    Second, we need to make sure that this last playoffs from Jackson (54%fg/60%3p/.16WS48) does not cloud our judgement. He produced extremely well, actually better than he has ever produced before. So while this may be as a result of his new role compared to past playoffs, it also may be an anomaly. What if he shoots 39%fg and 32%3p with an extremely low win share? Because that is his normal playoff contributions.

    All of this said, I like Jackson's intangibles just like everyone else. However, these don't exclude him from trade discussion. His salary is ripe for adjusting for the future and while I don't believe the spurs will do that it shouldn't be out of the question. I agree that Calderon was not a future oriented move, but I was just throwing it out there. I don't think Jax is our savior and he will not be the determinate between winning a series and losing it. He wasn't last year and won't be this year either.

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    Would you move him for Smith? I am torn on adding him because of long term questions, but would Smith make an impact for us this year?

    EDIT: Sorry, this was supposed to be in reply to KD. I am still getting used to the new function of this website.

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    Random rumor says that we are the major front runners for al Jefferson if they move him. Thoughts? The source sounded confident but I haven't seen it talked about much. Thoughts?

    Also saw that dalembert was available. His salary would be a little more awkward but would he be an interesting prospect?

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    ^ Just saw that. I'll post any update news on this.

    Rumor is that jackson and splitter would be part of the move. does this make sense since Tiago would want more money after this season?


    'Coach, we've got an issue with Kawhi in the arena. Event management called and the lights are not on, and Kawhi's in the arena for two straight days at 6:30 in the morning. And he brought two lamps from home, and he put them up in the arena and shot.'

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    RUMOR: SPURS FRONTRUNNERS TO LAND AL JEFFERSON
    Written by Jose Grijalva


    If you thought the San Antonio Spurs may stand pat this season in respect to trades, get ready to be surprised. As reported by Chris Sheridan on his website, the Spurs may be front runners to land Utah's Al Jefferson:

    The San Antonio Spurs are the front-runners to land Al Jefferson in a trade with the Utah Jazz – and they are frontrunners like Secretariat was in the 1973 Belmont Stakes.
    Although it's just a rumor, it's a pretty interesting one. Sheridan goes on to say the Jazz may need a PG in return, which the Spurs have a surplus of. Anyone say Cory Joseph? They'd also ask for Tiago Splitter, who will be a free agent and most likely not retained by the Spurs since he's a restricted free agent and will have a team overpay him with his contributions this season.

    It would be automatic that Stephen Jackson's $10 million contract comes into play here with whatever package. Jefferson is in his final contract year with Utah at $15 million and the Spurs are over the cap, so they'd have to match his salary.

    With Dwight Howard not performing as he has been known to, the Spurs would instantly have the best frontcourt in the West if this deal goes through.

    The Spurs have an abundance of swingman to make up for Jackson's loss, so don't be too surprised Jackson gets traded even if he comes up big in the playoffs. Although Jefferson will be a free agent next season, a trade like this seems more like the Spurs want to seal up a chance at the Finals this year over looking into a gamble this season and hoping for the same shot next season.


    'Coach, we've got an issue with Kawhi in the arena. Event management called and the lights are not on, and Kawhi's in the arena for two straight days at 6:30 in the morning. And he brought two lamps from home, and he put them up in the arena and shot.'

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    "No flash, No gimmicks. It's the quiet guys you should fear."


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    I would hate to see Jackson go. He's the heart of the team once playoff time comes around. But like the post mentions, "The Spurs have an abundance of swingman to make up for Jackson's loss."

    Should the FO move the pieces now? Spurs are playing some great basketball.


    'Coach, we've got an issue with Kawhi in the arena. Event management called and the lights are not on, and Kawhi's in the arena for two straight days at 6:30 in the morning. And he brought two lamps from home, and he put them up in the arena and shot.'

    ^

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    "No flash, No gimmicks. It's the quiet guys you should fear."


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    Spurs front-runners to land Al Jefferson?
    By Matthew Tynan


    I'm not generally a big trade rumor guy, basically because that's all they usually are -- rumors. The "would you do this or that?" scenarios seem pointless to me unless there are actual legs to the story. But with this one, there actually might be.

    Big ol', sexy, long legs, to be exact.

    Chris Sheridan of Sheridan Hoops reported about an hour ago that the San Antonio Spurs are the front-runners to land Jazz big man, if indeed he is traded. Utah is currently sitting in the seventh spot in the West -- just a game and a half ahead of ninth-place Portland -- and is currently stacked in the frontcourt with some definite weaknesses in the backcourt. With Paul Millsap, Enes Kanter and Derrick Favors also in tow alongside Jefferson, the Jazz have a logjam at a position where they feature quite a bit of talent. There has been speculation over the last two years that the team would, at some point, look to move one of their interior players.

    Jefferson comes with a hefty price tag -- $15 million this season -- and his contract expires after this year, so Utah risks losing him to free agency if they do not act prior to February's deadline. The Spurs' frontcourt has improved with Tiago Splitter's elevated level of play, but adding a borderline All-Star like Jefferson to the mix would be a welcomed supplement to the Big 3 as San Antonio approaches a potential playoff rematch with the likes of the Los Angeles Clippers or Oklahoma City Thunder.

    As Sheridan wrote, Utah doesn't have delusions of grandeur in terms of title chances this season, but is in dire need of a point guard with Mo Williams on the shelf. The Spurs have three point guards on the roster -- which is basically pointless given Gary Neal's role on the team -- and could theoretically part ways with Nando De Colo or, more likely, Patty Mills. (Cory Joseph could potentially be in that mix as well, though Mills would be more readily available to contribute immediately.) Remember, former Spurs assistant GM Dennis Lindsey is now a prominent part of the Utah front office and has a familiarity level with Mills. On top of that, Spurs current assistant GM is Scott Layden, formerly of the Jazz. As a source told Sheridan, these two teams are on very good terms internally.

    To make it all work out, the Spurs would conceivably have to send Splitter with Mills in the deal, unless a gift was sent from the heavens and the Jazz would ask for Matt Bonner. (We all love you, Matt...but Big Al though.)

    But then comes the difficult part: asking the Jazz to take on Stephen Jackson. The Spurs' backup small forward loves his role in San Antonio, and playing in any other uniform other than the Spurs' doesn't seem to be an interest of his. As I talked about with Andrew McNeill over at 48 Minutes of Hell, that contract is a great potential trade piece, but the guy who signed it might not be the most cooperative in a deal like this.

    As always, Spurs fans, take it with a grain of salt. There isn't a more zipped-up organization in the league when it comes to releasing trade rumors and such, and given Jefferson's expiring contract situation, pulling the trigger would be quite difficult. It will almost assuredly be easier to sign Splitter in the offseason than it would be to re-up with Big Al, but if the Jazz agree to something like this and the Spurs decide to make a big final push this season, who knows...

    Regardless, given the relationship between the two teams, this certainly could be more than just your average rumor.

    Wadda ya think, guys? How would Big Al look in the silver and black?
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    'Coach, we've got an issue with Kawhi in the arena. Event management called and the lights are not on, and Kawhi's in the arena for two straight days at 6:30 in the morning. And he brought two lamps from home, and he put them up in the arena and shot.'

    ^

    (During NBA lockout)

    "No flash, No gimmicks. It's the quiet guys you should fear."


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    The San Antonio Spurs may be looking to add another piece to this team, even with a full roster at the moment. As reported by San Antonio Express News' Jeff McDonald on Twitter, the Spurs have been interested in a Minnesota Timberwolves player:

    Pop says Spurs have had interest in French forward Mickael Gelabale, who is on the second of two 10-days with Minnesota. Pop: "He's somebody we thought about a lot over the last couple of years. We just never really had a position there." (@JMcDonald_SAEN)
    At 6'7" and weighing 215lbs, Mickael Gelabale does sound like an interesting project especially with fellow Frenchmen Tony Parker, Boris Diaw, and Nando De Colo on the team. The Spurs haven't had availability for a few years with Richard Jefferson and his bloated contract demanding minutes, but the Spurs may have some room in the near future to possibly make a run at him.

    Stephen Jackson and Manu Ginobili will be free agents this upcoming summer and may return next year, but there is most likely a free open spot sooner than that. The Spurs are looking to trade DeJuan Blair, which would open a spot on the team. He'll be a free agent this summer and most likely won't be returning to the team. Coach Gregg Popovich has also elected to go with Stephen Jackson at the power forward spot over Matt Bonner and Blair this year, which would give Gelabale a spot without disrupting the chemistry of the team.

    With the Manu Ginobili and Tim Duncan on their last years in the league, it's no secret the Spurs may be looking to cater to Tony Parker's preferences since this will be his team. With two of the Big 3 leaving, it'll make the transition smoother for the team and Parker to play a game with an easier flow to it over bringing in new pieces and trying to find chemistry in a long season.

    projectspurs.com


    'Coach, we've got an issue with Kawhi in the arena. Event management called and the lights are not on, and Kawhi's in the arena for two straight days at 6:30 in the morning. And he brought two lamps from home, and he put them up in the arena and shot.'

    ^

    (During NBA lockout)

    "No flash, No gimmicks. It's the quiet guys you should fear."


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    I can't imagine the Al Jefferson rumors are true. For one, we're hearing about it right now. More importantly, why would the Spurs hurt their defense and change the way there offense operates so drastically when they're already playing so well? It's a hell of a risky move for a guy that I'm not even sure makes the team better now. If this were a rumor last year I'd be a lot more interested. As of now, not so much. Now if we were talking about Derrick Favors...
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    no offense but the Spurs are freakin' communists bro. They should get with Stern's capitalist agenda like NOW




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    Who knows if the rumors are true, but the whole point is to discuss them as though they were. I too am unsure of the validity but there is no doubt that the spurs are looking for a big to continue on with and Jefferson could fit into that role. Yes it would take some transition, but at the same time if he is a guy they like, for whatever reason, then they know that either they take their shot at getting him now or they never have a chance for him.

    I would move Mills and Jackson in a heartbeat for Jefferson. However, the Splitter thing worries me. It isn't that I don't think he is untouchable, it is just I am not sure if Jefferson is the guy he should be moved for. I am still unsure what to think about Splitter. I believe he has made strides, at the same time, Pop is holding him back for some reason. Maybe it is a matchup thing, or maybe it is that he is most effective when he plays this amount of time. And if that is the case, I can see why they might try to get something for him when his value is high. There is no reason that he shouldn't be getting 30mpg by now. He is two seasons worth of games into his career and averaged 28mpg for January. That is a concern for me. At the same time, he is 28 years old. 3 days older than Jefferson. So the question has to be made, is this an upgrade that we are willing to make even if it does stunt the progress for this year? If this deal is accurate and we move three guys plus blair then that is some major turnover.

    I am still hoping that ATL is willing to move Horford for cap space. But that is more of a dream.

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    "I would move Mills and Jackson in a heartbeat for Jefferson. However, the Splitter thing worries me. "

    agreed...
    but I doubt Utah will take a trade of Jackson, Mills, Bonner/Blair. They don't have much value. i understand the toughness of jackson, and that's one thing we have to sacrifice. But I am thinking right now if Utah is kind enough to not take Splitter and take Bonner or Blair or even Diaw instead, will we be able to resign both Tiago and Al? both will be demanding a lot of money.

    If Splitter remains a Spur, for some reason, we got Al, I do believe we can win it all, but it is sort of a rental thing, we rent Al for 3 months and playoff time, but it will be very hard to keep both.

    I for one is excited about this deal and would like to see how it pans out, it just sounds good. But I do believe that Al is a random name, Utah trading for someone else, Utah could be dealing Millsap, and using Al Jeff to increase Millsap's value. Like Memphis claiming they will trade Zach instead of Rudy.

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    I agree, thats why I think it would be a deal breaker not to have Splitter in it. But last night is just another example of how this guy is killing me. At times, he makes some great passes, seems to spread the floor out well, and can put up some numbers. But for half the game, his stat line looked identical to Bonners and at the end of the night he was outplayed by Pekovic. He had a solid game, but for a guy who was supposed to be a top talent from oversees, something is not clicking even still. And I think that is why Pop still won't give him the PT. Leonard is a part of this teams future and he gets the minutes now that show that. To me it feels like they are unsure about Splitter still.

    As far as during the offseason, there are a couple of options if we miraculously have both Jefferson and Splitter. We will have the rights to both, so we can resign them both but it will put us over the cap. The second option is that we realize Al isn't part of the future and let him walk and keep Splitter. Or the third option which might be the best is that Al is our guy and we keep him and someone really wants Splitter and we work out a sign and trade that brings us some value or draft picks back in the process. I guess there is a fourth option in which we let them both walk, and that would be upsetting.

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