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    Feinstein to introduce assault weapons ban bill


    (CNN) – Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein of California said Sunday the president will soon have legislation "to lead on" in the gun control debate, announcing she will introduce a bill next month in the Senate to place a ban on assault weapons.

    "We'll be prepared to go, and I hope the nation will really help," Feinstein said on NBC's "Meet the Press."


    The senator said she'll introduce the bill when Congress reconvenes in January and the same legislation will also be proposed in the House of Representatives.

    "We're crafting this one. It's being done with care. It'll be ready on the first day," she said, adding that she'll soon announce the House authors.

    "It will ban the sale, the transfer, the importation, and the possession. Not retroactively, but prospectively. It will ban the same for big clips, drums or strips of more than 10 bullets," she said. "There will be a bill."

    Gun rights legislation has gained renewed attention since Friday's deadly elementary school shooting in Newtown, Connecticut, that left 20 students and six adults dead.

    Many lawmakers and politicians have called for stricter gun control laws at the federal level, including a revisit to the 1994 former assault weapons ban that expired in 2004 but has yet to be reinstated.

    Feinstein, who helped champion the 1994 legislation, said she and her staff have looked at the initial bill and tried to "perfect it."

    "We believe we have (perfected it). We exempt over 900 specific weapons that will not fall under the bill, but the purpose of this bill is to get … 'weapons of war' off the street of our cities," she said.

    The senator added she believes President Barack Obama will support the legislation. As a presidential candidate in 2008, Obama said he would support such a ban, but he has been criticized for failing to work toward tighter gun control laws since taking office.

    After Friday's shooting, however, the president signaled a change in policy could soon be in place.

    "We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics," Obama said in his weekly address Saturday, echoing remarks he made Friday after the tragedy.

    Feinstein on Sunday praised the assault weapons ban of 1994 for surviving its entire 10-year term and predicted a successful future for her upcoming bill.

    "I believe this will be sustained as well," she added. "You know, all of the things that society regulates, but we can't touch guns? That's wrong."

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    Judging by his speech tonight it sure sounds like President Obama is gonna really push for something to be done along these lines as well.

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    Yep. Some serious momentum here for Gun-Control legislation.

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    No surprise here. Will be interesting to see the exact contents of this bill.

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    Yuck. More and more starting to buy in to the conspiracies my dad preaches about

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    If you want to decrease gun violence legalize drugs.

    "We're going to have to come together and take meaningful action to prevent more tragedies like this, regardless of the politics," Obama said in his weekly address Saturday, echoing remarks he made Friday after the tragedy.
    How come we only have to "forget about politics" when it's something he wants to do? "We're gonna have to forget about the politics and advance my political agenda!" He's not forgetting about his politics; he's asking people who oppose his political views to forget about theirs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gcoll View Post
    If you want to decrease gun violence legalize drugs.



    How come we only have to "forget about politics" when it's something he wants to do? "We're gonna have to forget about the politics and advance my political agenda!" He's not forgetting about his politics; he's asking people who oppose his political views to forget about theirs.
    Absolutely this.

    And I took it as him saying that something needs to be done. No one is for sure what will be suggested or implemented due to this tragedy. But one thing is for certain, something needs to change. And he pretty much said that. Everyone needs to swallow their pride and work to get SOMETHING changed. What? I don't know the answer. And no one else likely does. But the idea that our government can put politics aside and work to make the citizens safer seems pleasant, yet far-fetched.

    It's not about putting the politics aside to push his agenda. It's pushingthe politics aside to push AN agenda.
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    Gun control had never once been involved in any speech, any platform, or any suggestion by this administration for the last 4 years.

    Where you got the idea it was HIS political agenda is painfully obvious because ive heard that false claim over and over in the RT. leaning media, without a single shred of documentation, or audio, or video, to support it.

    It is not Democrats, or Obama that prevents the legalization of Drugs.
    It has always been the RT wing of the republican party.

    Of the 18 medical Mary states only two are RED. montana, in 2004, and AZ in 2010.
    Meanwhile CA is coming up on 20 years of MM.

    liberal, or Progressives have LONG championed for the decriminalization of most recreational drugs.
    Before libertarians, and before the emerging conservative acceptance of the failure of one of their Key legislative efforts of the last 30 years...Reagan began the WAR on Drugs, and both Bushes ran with it.
    Obama, has stayed away from it politically becasue it is a issue of great liability to his administration.
    The religious rt would sh their pants, and all these new RT "legalizers" would change their minds overnight and start screaming about how Obama want our kids to become addicts(lol) I can hear Oriely/hannity already....

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    Not going to happen. It takes real class to use the memories of 20 dead children to advance a political agenda. Real class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patsfan56 View Post
    Not going to happen. It takes real class to use the memories of 20 dead children to advance a political agenda. Real class.
    Or perhaps they're trying to act so in a few years we don't have 20 more dead children? In the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, the shooter was declared mentally ill by a Virginia special justice far before his rampage, and was still able to legally buy guns. Sometimes tragedies just bring to light the flaws in our legal system.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymfan87 View Post
    Or perhaps they're trying to act so in a few years we don't have 20 more dead children? In the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, the shooter was declared mentally ill by a Virginia special justice far before his rampage, and was still able to legally buy guns. Sometimes tragedies just bring to light the flaws in our legal system.
    Key word right there,

    Rikers Island, the LA County Jail and Cook County Jail in Illinois housed the nation's largest mental health treatment centers in 2012.

    See any problem there?

    Everything should be on the table, but we must start at the mental health problem we have in this country before anything else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nymfan87 View Post
    Or perhaps they're trying to act so in a few years we don't have 20 more dead children? In the 2007 Virginia Tech shooting, the shooter was declared mentally ill by a Virginia special justice far before his rampage, and was still able to legally buy guns. Sometimes tragedies just bring to light the flaws in our legal system.
    Yeah come on people. because a tragedy relates to legislation does not me that it is politicizing the tragedy. It's responding to it. Every day in this country on average 34 people are killed with firearms. There is NO DAY in this country that isn't a tragedy when it comes to this issue.

    I'm not saying we should outlaw guns... Though I would support a constitutional amendment to do just that in a heartbeat. But we certainly need to address the issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stephkyle7 View Post
    Gun control had never once been involved in any speech, any platform, or any suggestion by this administration for the last 4 years.

    Where you got the idea it was HIS political agenda is painfully obvious because ive heard that false claim over and over in the RT. leaning media, without a single shred of documentation, or audio, or video, to support it.

    It is not Democrats, or Obama that prevents the legalization of Drugs.
    It has always been the RT wing of the republican party.

    Of the 18 medical Mary states only two are RED. montana, in 2004, and AZ in 2010.
    Meanwhile CA is coming up on 20 years of MM.

    liberal, or Progressives have LONG championed for the decriminalization of most recreational drugs.
    Before libertarians, and before the emerging conservative acceptance of the failure of one of their Key legislative efforts of the last 30 years...Reagan began the WAR on Drugs, and both Bushes ran with it.
    Obama, has stayed away from it politically becasue it is a issue of great liability to his administration.
    The religious rt would sh their pants, and all these new RT "legalizers" would change their minds overnight and start screaming about how Obama want our kids to become addicts(lol) I can hear Oriely/hannity already....
    This is what I was going to say. If it was such an agenda why didn't he address it at all in his first term. Hopefully Obama has the ball to see this through.

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    ^ becasue its a huge liability...like with legalization efforts, he cant win with these issues.
    If he says, hey you know, assualt rifles maybe arent good things to allow people to have...maybe for CERTAIN weapons, there needs to be greater control. A higher standard.
    And maybe, say for instance, in the praire states, and the Blue ridge areas, where your more isolated, and people choose to live there becasue they love to hunt, maybe they should have a different set of laws, then say downtown Chicago, where the Deer Hunting is real scarce like.
    I mean there are a Ton of ways to try and approach the problem, but not a single one of them doesnt interfere with the commerce of weapons sales, and THAT is the REAL issue the NRA supports.
    The 2nd amendment argument is B.S.
    It was written to ensure that in the absence of a standing army ,which we didnot have ,that a Militia could be drawn at a moments notice from the citizenry.
    Also, the Fear of Government which was sown into the thread of our collective conscience was based on the direct experience with the British Crown..now 250 years latter some of you guys are STILL running around seeing "redcoats" under every Rock...its nutty.

    @ raiderfanin texas...this issue of mental health is systemic to our economic philosophy.
    We will never address it becasue simply put, capitalism is the single greatest outside force effecting it.

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    The GINI coeffecient is a measure of wealth distribution.
    The concentration of wealth creates greater social pressures and stress which results in greater mental health issues and overall lowering of standards of living.
    This is a well documented dynamic.
    To achieve solvency in a Family, most couples both work, then it is up to schools, and daycares, and sitters and the likes to raise our children, who really only want us present in their lives.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patsfan56 View Post
    Not going to happen. It takes real class to use the memories of 20 dead children to advance a political agenda. Real class.
    It takes a lot of class to take on a politically electrified issue in order to try to solve the problem that killed them. Yes, it does.

    It takes a pretty biased and jaundiced eye to see this attempt to find a solution as a political ploy -- the reason insane people have access to deadly automatic weapons in this country it because of the amount of politics that has already been played with this issue. You want to see who made this tragedy possible? You want to see who caused this problem, these deaths? Look right at the NRA and their supporters. Without them playing politics with this issue for decades, 20 kids are alive today. With their politicization of the gun issue, they're dead. You want to point fingers on the politics of guns? I am all for it.
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