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    Mets' lineup changes generated by Terry Collins

    Mets' lineup changes generated by Terry Collins and coaching staff, not front office

    By MARC CARIG marc.carig@newsday.com

    WASHINGTON - The Mets' unusual starting lineup on Opening Day has generated plenty of buzz, with much of it centering on its origins.

    Did Terry Collins actually choose to bat David Wright in the second spot after years of slotting him third? Or did the manager simply acquiesce to a front-office mandate?

    Whatever the case, don't expect a change anytime soon.

    According to sources, the Mets intend to stick with roughly the same lineup Wednesday night against the Nationals. And the plan is to keep it for the foreseeable future, even against lefthanded pitching.

    That means Curtis Granderson will lead off, with Wright behind him. Lucas Duda will bat third, one up from his usual cleanup spot, where Michael Cuddyer has taken over. Daniel Murphy will bat fifth, where Collins hopes he'll be better positioned to hit with runners on base.


    On Monday, before a season-opening 3-1 win over the Nationals, Wright played down the slightly altered lineup.

    "I batted second plenty of times in spring training, so this isn't some huge surprise to anybody really," Wright said.

    When Collins first brought up the idea in spring training, Wright said he cut off the manager to make it clear that he'd be comfortable anywhere in the lineup.

    "Terry, I don't care," Wright said he told the manager. "Bat me wherever you think is best to help this team win, whether it's second, third, sixth, seventh, it doesn't matter, especially after the first inning. The lineup flips. It really means nothing."

    Sources insisted Tuesday that the adjusted lineup stemmed from conversations within the coaching staff, which only later brought the idea to the front office.

    "The front office gave their input, but this lineup was strictly Terry and his coaching staff," one source said.

    Though the overall look of the order is expected to remain the same, a source said that some changes might come at the bottom, with the staff still undecided about whether to bat the pitcher eighth.

    With the weak-hitting Bartolo Colon starting on Opening Day, the Mets left him in the traditional ninth spot.

    But Wednesday night's starter, Jacob deGrom, has been one of the better-hitting pitchers on the staff and could be moved into the eighth spot. The same goes for Matt Harvey, who makes his first start since August 2013 Thursday afternoon.


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    I don't care who came up with the lineup. It is a good use of their players.

    But if TC came up with it, good job on his part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Claymation View Post
    Mets' lineup changes generated by Terry Collins and coaching staff, not front office

    By MARC CARIG marc.carig@newsday.com

    WASHINGTON - The Mets' unusual starting lineup on Opening Day has generated plenty of buzz, with much of it centering on its origins.

    Did Terry Collins actually choose to bat David Wright in the second spot after years of slotting him third? Or did the manager simply acquiesce to a front-office mandate?

    Whatever the case, don't expect a change anytime soon.

    According to sources, the Mets intend to stick with roughly the same lineup Wednesday night against the Nationals. And the plan is to keep it for the foreseeable future, even against lefthanded pitching.

    That means Curtis Granderson will lead off, with Wright behind him. Lucas Duda will bat third, one up from his usual cleanup spot, where Michael Cuddyer has taken over. Daniel Murphy will bat fifth, where Collins hopes he'll be better positioned to hit with runners on base.


    On Monday, before a season-opening 3-1 win over the Nationals, Wright played down the slightly altered lineup.

    "I batted second plenty of times in spring training, so this isn't some huge surprise to anybody really," Wright said.

    When Collins first brought up the idea in spring training, Wright said he cut off the manager to make it clear that he'd be comfortable anywhere in the lineup.

    "Terry, I don't care," Wright said he told the manager. "Bat me wherever you think is best to help this team win, whether it's second, third, sixth, seventh, it doesn't matter, especially after the first inning. The lineup flips. It really means nothing."

    Sources insisted Tuesday that the adjusted lineup stemmed from conversations within the coaching staff, which only later brought the idea to the front office.

    "The front office gave their input, but this lineup was strictly Terry and his coaching staff," one source said.

    Though the overall look of the order is expected to remain the same, a source said that some changes might come at the bottom, with the staff still undecided about whether to bat the pitcher eighth.

    With the weak-hitting Bartolo Colon starting on Opening Day, the Mets left him in the traditional ninth spot.

    But Wednesday night's starter, Jacob deGrom, has been one of the better-hitting pitchers on the staff and could be moved into the eighth spot. The same goes for Matt Harvey, who makes his first start since August 2013 Thursday afternoon.
    im quite certain they would say that regardless of the truth. cant publicly depose the manager of power

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    I don't get David Wright as a number 2 hitter, not these days with that big swing of his.
    "Gods always behave like the people who make them."

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    Exactly, it was because last year... Duda was our best hitter. Also the lineup allows more protection for Wright as he has two solid hitters after him, so he can get more pitches to swing at

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    I don't get David Wright as a number 2 hitter, not these days with that big swing of his.
    "These days" have become "most of his career."

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    Quote Originally Posted by metswin06 View Post
    im quite certain they would say that regardless of the truth. cant publicly depose the manager of power
    You might have a point if it were an official statement. This is a leak. You'd have to assume some espionage-level **** if you think the source is lying on purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeGamer81 View Post
    "These days" have become "most of his career."
    Sigh.
    "Gods always behave like the people who make them."

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    Where is that great line drive hitter with power to the opposite field who was among the best two strike hitters in baseball?

    I miss the young David Wright who rarely swung from the heels but didn't get cheated on his swings either.

    Where have you gone David Double You, Mets nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo

    What's that you say Mrs Robinson, David Dubs has left and gone away, hey hey hey hey hey hey.....
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    There's the mush

    Calling it now, this year FOC starts the D-Dub Fan Club

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeGamer81 View Post
    You might have a point if it were an official statement. This is a leak. You'd have to assume some espionage-level **** if you think the source is lying on purpose.

    often time "leaks" are intentional. they dont want to make a big deal out of it by doing an official statement. reporters have relationships with guys in the front office and often will write what their source wants in order to build the relationship.

    source: lived with ian begley, knicks writer for espn, for a year

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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    Where is that great line drive hitter with power to the opposite field who was among the best two strike hitters in baseball?

    I miss the young David Wright who rarely swung from the heels but didn't get cheated on his swings either.

    Where have you gone David Double You, Mets nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo

    What's that you say Mrs Robinson, David Dubs has left and gone away, hey hey hey hey hey hey.....
    I still think he has been affected mentally at least from when he got beamed in the head. Before that like you said he was such a dangerous hitter. He is afraid to stand to close to the plate and doesnt have as much confidence in his swing. I still think he has time to have a few more real good years he just needs to have more confidence

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCrusher View Post
    I still think he has been affected mentally at least from when he got beamed in the head. Before that like you said he was such a dangerous hitter. He is afraid to stand to close to the plate and doesnt have as much confidence in his swing. I still think he has time to have a few more real good years he just needs to have more confidence
    seems like he always has the up and in pitch in his head and isnt able to commit to the outside pitch like he used to. fastball up and in, and then a slider down and away gets him far too often

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    Quote Originally Posted by JCrusher View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    Where is that great line drive hitter with power to the opposite field who was among the best two strike hitters in baseball?

    I miss the young David Wright who rarely swung from the heels but didn't get cheated on his swings either.

    Where have you gone David Double You, Mets nation turns its lonely eyes to you, woo woo woo

    What's that you say Mrs Robinson, David Dubs has left and gone away, hey hey hey hey hey hey.....
    I still think he has been affected mentally at least from when he got beamed in the head. Before that like you said he was such a dangerous hitter. He is afraid to stand to close to the plate and doesnt have as much confidence in his swing. I still think he has time to have a few more real good years he just needs to have more confidence
    He was struggling in 2009 long before that knock in the melon. It was citi field that turned into more of a pull hitter.

    He's been going to right a lot all spring and has definitely cut down on his swing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Magoo View Post
    He was struggling in 2009 long before that knock in the melon. It was citi field that turned into more of a pull hitter.

    He's been going to right a lot all spring and has definitely cut down on his swing.
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