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    Quote Originally Posted by theslick1 View Post
    He was definitely hurt in 2009. He wasn't hurt in 2010. He wasn't hurt in 2011. And 140 innings is close to being a full season for a minor leaguer. Scranton had just two guys pitch more than that last year.

    From the article you cited:



    He had pitched just 47 innings in 2009 and was at 140 innings in 2010 so they shut him down for the last month of the year.
    I wouldn't trade Montero for a rookie pitcher even without the past history and bad mechanics. It's simply stupid. Young pitchers simply have a much higher percentage of burn out. Pineda was a ticking time bomb. He didn't even have a reliable third pitch!!

    I still laugh over the fact that AA passed on Pineda to keep Lawrie, but Cashman bit with higher tier prospect. Cashman never ceases to unimpress me.
    "I'm an administrator. I'm a good listener. I would not pass myself off as an evaluator of talent"

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    Sauron going ham.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YEDB90 View Post
    Sauron going ham.
    ????????????????????


    And so, a new era begins.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Webslinger View Post
    I wouldn't trade Montero for a rookie pitcher even without the past history and bad mechanics. It's simply stupid. Young pitchers simply have a much higher percentage of burn out. Pineda was a ticking time bomb. He didn't even have a reliable third pitch!!

    I still laugh over the fact that AA passed on Pineda to keep Lawrie, but Cashman bit with higher tier prospect. Cashman never ceases to unimpress me.
    Montero 2012 WAR: -0.2

    He was sorely missed last year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theslick1 View Post
    Montero 2012 WAR: -0.2

    He was sorely missed last year.
    In all fairness I'm sure he was 1000% into Seattle baseball.

    It's a poor excuse but I think you'll see a turn around soon.

    His ceilings just too high.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    ????????????????????
    Nevermind

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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    In all fairness I'm sure he was 1000% into Seattle baseball.

    It's a poor excuse but I think you'll see a turn around soon.

    His ceilings just too high.
    Isn't he playing for Seattle again next year? Has something happened to inspire him to be better?

    By the way, he showed an extreme inability to hit RH pitching last year, which is unfortunate since RH pitchers outnumber LH pitchers by a large margin. He hit just .228 vs. RH and .322 vs. LH.

    Maybe his future is in being the RH half of a DH platoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by theslick1 View Post
    Montero 2012 WAR: -0.2

    He was sorely missed last year.
    Seattle is where hitters go to die too.

    | .372 AVG | 0 HR | 2 RBI | 6 SB | .438 OBP | .442 SLG | .394 wOBA |

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Clipper View Post
    Seattle is where hitters go to die too.
    Recently, that's certainly been the case (Beltre, Figgins, etc.).

    The mid-90s teams had some good hitters though (Buhner, Edgar Martinez, Griffey, A-Rod).

    Kingdome vs. Safeco?

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    Quote Originally Posted by theslick1 View Post
    Recently, that's certainly been the case (Beltre, Figgins, etc.).

    The mid-90s teams had some good hitters though (Buhner, Edgar Martinez, Griffey, A-Rod).

    Kingdome vs. Safeco?
    Yup, it's gotta be.

    | .372 AVG | 0 HR | 2 RBI | 6 SB | .438 OBP | .442 SLG | .394 wOBA |

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yankee Clipper View Post
    Seattle is where hitters go to die too.
    poor Jesus

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    Quote Originally Posted by theslick1 View Post
    Isn't he playing for Seattle again next year? Has something happened to inspire him to be better?

    By the way, he showed an extreme inability to hit RH pitching last year, which is unfortunate since RH pitchers outnumber LH pitchers by a large margin. He hit just .228 vs. RH and .322 vs. LH.

    Maybe his future is in being the RH half of a DH platoon.
    I said it wasn't a good excuse but maybe he needed to year for readjustment and to accept his surroundings.

    Or did we overvalue him all those years


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    Quote Originally Posted by sauronthepower View Post
    I said it wasn't a good excuse but maybe he needed to year for readjustment and to accept his surroundings.

    Or did we overvalue him all those years
    I'm beginning to think it was this. I'm willing to wait and see how he does this year before throwing dirt on him though.

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    "Moneyball" What Yanks did:

    1) Convinced Yankee fans that reducing payroll would actually help this team win..lol
    2) Raised ticket prices AGAIN
    3) Made record breaking profits '12

    Great job Yanks...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bivory View Post
    "Moneyball" What Yanks did:

    1) Convinced Yankee fans that reducing payroll would actually help this team win..lol
    2) Raised ticket prices AGAIN
    3) Made record breaking profits '12

    Great job Yanks...
    I agree and disagree I would like them to spend less, don't wanna be the only team over 200 million yearly.... and when they win, its like well they spent enough....so big deal

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