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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleplay2007 View Post
    I grew up with guys like Chipper Jones, Craig Biggio, Todd Helton, all sticking with they're teams for the long haul. That's the way it should be in my book.

    What is wrong with this generation of players? Are you guys a fan of hopping ships from one rival to another like these guys do today? Guys leaving their teams for more money.

    Examples of guys leaving for rivals:

    Josh Hamilton to the Angels from the Rangers
    Johnny Damon to the Yankees from the Redsox
    CJ Wilson to the Angels from the Rangers

    Example of franchise players leaving for better money:

    Albert Pujols to the Angels from the Cardinals

    It seems like the guys that we once cheered and loved always take the money over loyalty these days.

    Do you guys have a problem with this or is it just me? Nothing's stranger then seeing your franchise guy leave town for more money.
    There are plenty of franchise players.

    Evan Longoria, Ryan Braun, Mo, Jeter, Tulo, etc.

    There are still plenty of them. Every generation only has so many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleplay2007 View Post
    Agreed and a division rival.
    You don't have division rivals if you are a free agent and the team you were with has been looking to replace your contract with Greinke or trade for Upton to take your spot.

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    Thats why I love Jeter and Mo so much. It's not easy to find loyal players in the MLB, but there are a special few that are.

    Our QB > Yours

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    That reminds me of when Glavine went to the Mets.. I understand being leader of the union and should go to the highest bidder (And the extra year). But really the effin mets?I just can't view him as a brave after going to them.


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    $$$ over all in the NBA, NFL and MLB
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    Quote Originally Posted by tripleplay2007 View Post
    I grew up with guys like Chipper Jones, Craig Biggio, Todd Helton, all sticking with they're teams for the long haul. That's the way it should be in my book.

    What is wrong with this generation of players? Are you guys a fan of hopping ships from one rival to another like these guys do today? Guys leaving their teams for more money.

    Examples of guys leaving for rivals:

    Josh Hamilton to the Angels from the Rangers
    Johnny Damon to the Yankees from the Redsox
    CJ Wilson to the Angels from the Rangers

    Example of franchise players leaving for better money:

    Albert Pujols to the Angels from the Cardinals

    It seems like the guys that we once cheered and loved always take the money over loyalty these days.

    Do you guys have a problem with this or is it just me? Nothing's stranger then seeing your franchise guy leave town for more money.
    10 years 250 million.

    OR

    5 years I believe 100 million?

    I don't care who you are or what sport you play or in what generation you play it in. If those are my two contracts offers, its a no-brainer.

    Not to mention Pujols' has another contract that kicks in after this one. 10 year deal at 1 million a year I believe it was. Office job.
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    Loyalty isn't mandatory.
    Players will and should go to wherever they think they have the best opportunity to be happy.
    Just because someone trades for or drafts a player, doesn't mean he has to stay there for his entire career if he doesn't want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffy25 View Post
    There are plenty of franchise players.

    Evan Longoria, Ryan Braun, Mo, Jeter, Tulo, etc.

    There are still plenty of them. Every generation only has so many.
    Yep.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yankees90. View Post
    10 years 250 million.

    OR

    5 years I believe 100 million?

    I don't care who you are or what sport you play or in what generation you play it in. If those are my two contracts offers, its a no-brainer.

    Not to mention Pujols' has another contract that kicks in after this one. 10 year deal at 1 million a year I believe it was. Office job.
    While I agree with you about taking the best offer, and the best offer isn't always simply based on finances, the Cardinals offer was not 5 years/100M. It was something like 9 years/200M I believe.

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    Just because the fans love seeing a guy play for a certain team doesn't mean the player actually loves playing for that team. Just a heads up

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    Slowly it has changed. Check out the players from the 60's. Then check out the 70's-80's. You'll see it got worse then.
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    Parity is about equality of opportunity, not equality of results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iam brett favre View Post
    Thats why I love Jeter and Mo so much. It's not easy to find loyal players in the MLB, but there are a special few that are.
    Do you really think the Yankees would have ever been out bid for them?
    Quote Originally Posted by Crucis View Post
    Parity is about equality of opportunity, not equality of results.

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    What about fan loyalty? Many Rangers fans booed and harassed Hamilton last year?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yankees90. View Post
    10 years 250 million.

    OR

    5 years I believe 100 million?

    I don't care who you are or what sport you play or in what generation you play it in. If those are my two contracts offers, its a no-brainer.

    Not to mention Pujols' has another contract that kicks in after this one. 10 year deal at 1 million a year I believe it was. Office job.
    pujols was a going to be a god in st. louis. There is definitely value in being a legend like that. His glory would have lived on forever. But he took the cash option and left. I guess having a few extra bedrooms was worth it to him.

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    You guys probably ain't loyal to people when there's no money involved, don't act like you would with millions of dollars on the table

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