I believe Price is a FA in 2015. He's got 3.1 years of service currently. So I doubt there'd be any contingency on a contract extension.
This might just be me but I don't see this FO ever trading Almora or Soler. I really think these are two guys that have brought into and invested quite a bit in so far (Almora b/c he's the new regime's first pick, Soler b/c contract). Baez, I could see them moving him easily.
To me if a Price package would go down next off season and assuming guys develop properly I could see a package like Baez and Vogelbach being the two premium pieces, then a high upside pitcher like Maples or Johnson, a mid level bat like Candelario, Hernandez or Amaya, then some filler guys in the lower levels.
Again assuming that guys continue to develop and a couple of guys break out.
I'm ok with trading one of our top prospects (Vogelbach, Baez) only because we already have long term assets in the MLB Roster (Castro, Rizzo), but I do not feel ok trading a player like Almora or Soler, because the outfield is still a question mark.
For example, look at the Blue Jays and the Dodgers. Now, while I think both have their own flaws (Jays in terms of the volatility of the players they traded for in age or injury concerns and LA in terms of the price) they've both essentially used their minor league systems to stock the MLB coffers. Both teams are real threats to the W.S. this year. And in the end, most of the guys given up? Wont turn into much. Remember that Miguel Cabrera trade that was supposed to kill the Tigers? Maybin is the best player and he's "meh" at best. For every Bartolo Colon trade that comes with Hafner, Sizemore and Phillips, you can find a Miguel trade.
Don't get murdered in a trade. Yes. Be cautious. But we need to understand that some of Baez, Almora, Underwood, Johnson, Vogelbach, Soler, Conway, McNeil, Wells, Villenueva, Jackson, Vitters, Amaya, Torreyes (you get the picture).....some of those guys...will fail. They will burn out. Remember Trey McNutt? From nothing draft pick, to top-100 prospect, to BP org depth in two years. So will these guys. And you can't hold back Almora or Soler just because the MLB is thin there. There will always be FA's and other trades to be made.
David Price is a true ace SP. If you can get him and get him reasonably for what he is...you do it.
Price is a FA in 2016.
So trading for him in the 13 offseason gives you 2 years of control. If we were to trade for Price, I would hope one of our guys would raise their value so much, that we wouldn't be talking Baez, AND Almora, AND vogelbach, AND Villanueva. That's just a tad much I'd say.
Villenueva only makes sense if the Rays think of him as a legit 2b option, which I'm unsure of. I used his name more of in terms of his value, where he's a back-end Cubs top 10, and by 2013, could be around number 11 if a few of our bigger ceiling players take jumps (plus the draft).
Dickey gets 2-yr/$25 mil extension to complete trade pending physical.
What a change between the 2012 rotation (Romero/Morrow/Cecil/Alvarez/McGowan) and the 2013 rotation (Johnson/Dickey/Buehrle/Morrow/Romero)
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I think it's possible to only have to give up one of the big 3, even in a deal for Price. If they progress the way we think they can. That said, it's going to cost much more than JUST one of those guys. If Vogelbach and Villanueva or someone else has cracked into top 100ish type value, I could see one of the big 3, 2 top 100 types, and an upside type or two(Marco Hernandez, Gioskar Amaya type guys that sit outside the org top 10, but young, projectable, you can dream on, type guys). The Rays get good hauls to begin with, but if they're trading Price? A top 20ish prospect, 2 top 100's, 2 org top 15's with upside. Thats my guess as to what they can get, or the equivalent with controllable young major leaguers.
Yeah it looks like The Jays arent going to let injuries like last year to their rotation slow them down this up comming season. Johnson, Dickey, Buehrle, Morrow, Romero, Hutchison, Happ, and Drabek now that depth.
Boy wish the Cubs will sign Jackson and Villanueva. So then we can have Garza, Samardzija, Jackson, Wood, Baker, Feldman, and Villanueva.
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I'm with Davell that it's one and not two of the three. The Cubs have plenty of quantity, and that some of that quantity is of a quality variety. One + Vogelbach and we are in the conversation pretty easy I think.
Last edited by SenorGato; 12-17-2012 at 12:27 PM.
If things to accordingly, all 3 of those guys, plus whoever we take at 2 in the draft could ALL be top 20ish prospects next year, with Baez even being top 5. I can honestly see us adding a Price or Felix to the rotation AND an Upton or Stanton to the lineup. And the cupboard wouldn't even be bare, by any stretch.
It's also very possible that Baez's struggles at A+ and AFL continue and he drops out of the top 50.