12/11/12 Mockbomb

[TDjacksonville]

Round 1
1. Kansas City Chiefs (2-11): Geno Smith QB West Virginia
2. Jacksonville Jaguars (2-11): Bjoern Werner DE FSU
3. Oakland Raiders (3-10): Star Lotulelei DT Utah
4. Philadelphia Eagles (4-9): Luke Joeckel OT Texas A&M
5. Carolina Panthers (4-9): Jake Matthews OT Texas A&M
6. Tennessee Titans (4-9): Damontre Moore DE Texas A&M
7. Detroit Lions (4-9): Dee Milliner CB Alabama
8. Arizona Cardinals (4-9): Taylor Lewen OT Michigan
9. San Diego Chargers (5-8): Johnathan Hankins DT Ohio State
10. Cleveland Browns (5-8): Sam Montgomery DE LSU
11. Buffalo Bills (5-8): Matt Barkley QB USC
12. Miami Dolphins (5-8): Jarvis Jones DE/OLB Georgia
13. New Orleans Saints (5-8): Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
14. New York Jets (6-7): Dion Jordan OLB Oregon
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-7): Johnathan Banks CB Mississippi State
16. St. Louis Rams (6-6-1): Chance Warmack G Alabama
17. Cincinnati Bengals (7-6): Manti Te’o ILB Notre Dame
18. Minnesota Vikings (7-6): Jesse Williams DT Alabama
19. Dallas Cowboys (7-6): Alex Okafer OLB Texas
20. Saint Louis Rams from Washington Redskins (7-6): Eric Fisher OT Central Michigan
Spots 21-32 in the 2013 NFL Draft order depend on the 2012 NFL Playoffs results.
21. Pittsburgh Steelers (7-6): Alec Ogletree ILB Georgia
22. Seattle Seahawks (8-5): Keenan Allen WR California
23. New York Giants (8-5): Ezekiel Ansah DE BYU
24. Chicago Bears (8-5): CJ Mosley LB Alabama
25. Indianapolis Colts (9-4): John Jenkins NT Georgia
26. Green Bay Packers (9-4): Justin Hunter WR Tennessee
27. Baltimore Ravens (9-4): Matt Elam S Florida
28. San Francisco 49ers (9-3-1): Margus Hunt DE SMU
29. Denver Broncos (10-3): Xavier Rhodes CB FSU
30. New England Patriots (10-3): Eric Reid S LSU
31. Houston Texans (11-2): Kawaan Short DT Purdue
32. Atlanta Falcons (11-2): Jackson Jeffcoat DE Texas

Round 2
1. Kansas City Chiefs (2-11): Shariff Floyd DE Florida
2. Jacksonville Jaguars (2-11): Johnathan Cooper G UNC
3. Cincinnati Bengals from Oakland Raiders (3-10): Deandre Hopkins WR Clemson
4. Philadelphia Eagles (4-9): Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
5. Carolina Panthers (4-9): Terrance Williams WR Baylor
6. Tennessee Titans (4-9): Dallas Thomas G Tennessee
7. Detroit Lions (4-9): David Amerson DB NC State
8. Arizona Cardinals (4-9): Oday Aboushi OT Virginia
9. San Diego Chargers (5-8): Tavon Austin WR West Virginia
10. Cleveland Browns (5-8): forfeited
11. Buffalo Bills (5-8): Lane Johnson OT Oklahoma
12. Miami Dolphins (5-8): Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
13. New Orleans Saints (5-8): Forfeited
14. New York Jets (6-7): Robert Woods WR USC
15. Tampa Bay Buccaneers (6-7): DJ Fluker OT Alabama
16. St. Louis Rams (6-6-1): Zack Ertz TE Stanford
17. Cincinnati Bengals (7-6): Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State
18. Minnesota Vikings (7-6): Cordarrelle Patterson WR Tennessee
19. Dallas Cowboys (7-6): Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse
20. Washington Redskins (7-6): Arthur Brown LB Kansas State
Spots 21-32 in the 2013 NFL Draft order depend on the 2012 NFL Playoffs results.
21. Pittsburgh Steelers (7-6): TJ McDonald S USC
22. Seattle Seahawks (8-5): Chase Thomas LB Stanford
23. New York Giants (8-5): Larry Warford G Kentucky
24. Chicago Bears (8-5): Kyle Long G/T Oregon
25. Miami Dolphins from Indianapolis Colts (9-4): Corey Lemonier DE Auburn
26. Green Bay Packers (9-4): Giovani Bernard RB UNC
27. Baltimore Ravens (9-4): Morgan Breslin OLB/DE USC
28. San Francisco 49ers (9-3-1): Desmond Trufant CB Washington
29. Denver Broncos (10-3): Eddie Lacy RB Alabama
30. New England Patriots (10-3): Anthony Barr OLB UCLA
31. Houston Texans (11-2): Kevin Minter ILB LSU
32. Atlanta Falcons (11-2): John Simon DE Ohio State

[det32]

i just dont see lions going CB... huston will be back... S OL( C RG maybe RT) and LB are all bigger needs

i wouldnt be upset with the pick tho

[TDjacksonville]

i just dont see lions going CB... huston will be back... S OL( C RG maybe RT) and LB are all bigger needs

i wouldnt be upset with the pick tho

i feel milliner would be about BPA there in round 1 though u could argue te'o but i believe the lions could be looking to get some upgrade in terms of talent at CB and huston could be a solid guy but hes not a star caliber and im fairly certain milliner would be an upgrade for your pass defense

had amerson at BPA and i think hes more like a Safety than CB but i could see te but rb(i dont see with how much yall spent on Best and Leshoure) and wr could be BPA but i know the lions are kinda loaded at wr so i would rule that out and might go eifert but i thought sheffler and pettigrew were solid guys. eiferts nothing special imo.

[det32]

i feel milliner would be about BPA there in round 1 though u could argue te'o but i believe the lions could be looking to get some upgrade in terms of talent at CB and huston could be a solid guy but hes not a star caliber and im fairly certain milliner would be an upgrade for your pass defense

had amerson at BPA and i think hes more like a Safety than CB but i could see te but rb(i dont see with how much yall spent on Best and Leshoure) and wr could be BPA but i know the lions are kinda loaded at wr so i would rule that out and might go eifert but i thought sheffler and pettigrew were solid guys. eiferts nothing special imo.

mocking CB is like macking LT for last 10 years.. no we are not top 5 at the postion but we are much better then given credit for.. would he up grade us? aboslutly.. would i be fine with thw pick? yep... i just dont think it will happen.. i see DE happoning.. i want a LB or S tho depoinfing on pick... our weakest spots imo

[det32]

and for the 2nd.. i wouldnt be shoked to see a WR RB or TE being picked

[NJ Raven]

Rather Barr or Minter in the 2nd but otherwise I'd be fine.

[TDjacksonville]

Rather Barr or Minter in the 2nd but otherwise I'd be fine.

think breslin has more suggs in him than barr(i see barr as a pure LB in any scheme). i could see your point about minter though and i did consider him but felt breslin could help that pass rush a bit more.

[homestarunner93]

Panthers draft is terrible. Too high for Jake Matthews, and no reason to take a WR early in the second when there are much bigger needs to be filled.

[TDjacksonville]

Panthers draft is terrible. Too high for Jake Matthews, and no reason to take a WR early in the second when there are much bigger needs to be filled.

could argue that im just ahead of the norm on matthews. his name will make him rise up from top ten to almost top 5 and i think matthews could play LT in the NFL but joeckel was better but put matthews at any other school besides bama and hed start for all of them at LT.

as for the 2nd round wr sure theres bigger needs but do u really pass on a possible number 1 when steve smith is getting closer to retirement?

[homestarunner93]

could argue that im just ahead of the norm on matthews. his name will make him rise up from top ten to almost top 5 and i think matthews could play LT in the NFL but joeckel was better but put matthews at any other school besides bama and hed start for all of them at LT.

as for the 2nd round wr sure theres bigger needs but do u really pass on a possible number 1 when steve smith is getting closer to retirement?

I could also argue that you're hoping you're "ahead of the norm" in order to look smart IF he rises come draft time. That being said, he probably won't. He doesn't project that well to LT, and would a terrible pick that high.

Uhh, yes? "Possible number 1" WRs are a dime a dozen in the draft right now. It isn't really that hard to find a "possible number 1." It isn't like Terrence Williams is some kind of franchise talent at WR like an AJ Green or someone of that nature. I would absolutely pass on Williams at the top of the second round, because the Panthers have much bigger needs right now than yet another young WR, not to mention the 2014 WR class features two possible franchise-caliber talents in Sammy Watkins and Marqise Lee.

[delfinko]

Better draft for the Eagles, still don't see them taking a QB in the first two rounds, too many other needs. If they do take a QB, it's more likely to be Nassib. GM and QB coach were scouting him a few weeks ago. Maybe that's just because he was in Philadelphia, but there's a lot of speculation around here about it.

They need DB help so badly I don't think they can afford a QB in the first 2 rounds. Safety is a more pressing need considering there isn't a safety on the roster that has NFL starter caliber talent.

FYI, Browns forfeit their second round pick because of taking Josh Gordon in the supplemental draft. Also I could see them taking Banks or Milliner rather than a pass rusher.

[TDjacksonville]

Better draft for the Eagles, still don't see them taking a QB in the first two rounds, too many other needs. If they do take a QB, it's more likely to be Nassib. GM and QB coach were scouting him a few weeks ago. Maybe that's just because he was in Philadelphia, but there's a lot of speculation around here about it.

They need DB help so badly I don't think they can afford a QB in the first 2 rounds. Safety is a more pressing need considering there isn't a safety on the roster that has NFL starter caliber talent.

FYI, Browns forfeit their second round pick because of taking Josh Gordon in the supplemental draft. Also I could see them taking Banks or Milliner rather than a pass rusher.

i think wilsons a better qb than nassib and im sure no one can argue hes not besides the homers. if you havent noticed i didnt do a 3rd round and they would be getting a good safety there.

as for the browns 1st round pick milliner wasnt available at their pick and i felt it would be a good reach to take banks. i think montgomery and sheard would be a good dou at end which will make them better

[delfinko]

i think wilsons a better qb than nassib and im sure no one can argue hes not besides the homers. if you havent noticed i didnt do a 3rd round and they would be getting a good safety there.

as for the browns 1st round pick milliner wasnt available at their pick and i felt it would be a good reach to take banks. i think montgomery and sheard would be a good dou at end which will make them better

I didn't say either QB was better than the other and I'm really complaining about the position you chose more than the name. I'm just giving you information to help your mock draft because it seems the Eagles have shown interest in Nassib. Regardless, you're ignoring just how bad the secondary is and the only way a QB in the first 2 rounds can be justified is if Foles regresses. He already sees the field pre-snap better than any quarterback that's been in Philadelphia under Andy Reid and his game is getting better every week. If that continues, he's the QB next year. (This is why it's too early to do mock drafts)

To explain just how bad the secondary has been, right now the Eagles need 2 safeties, and at least 1 cornerback. Yes, they have been that weak in the secondary. Like I said, they don't have one safety with NFL starter talent. So fine, they can get a good safety in the 3rd, but are they going to get a CB and another S in the 4th and 5th that can also start?

The Browns need CB help more than a pass rusher, and 5 spots when there are no Luck, RG3, Claiborne, Kalil equivalent prospects available, isn't that much of a reach. Since Phil Taylor came back, the line is different. I agree adding Montgomery would make a nice duo, but they really seem to be ok there and it's not like he's the second coming of Bruce Smith. CB is a huge hole opposite Joe Haden.

[TDjacksonville]

I didn't say either QB was better than the other and I'm really complaining about the position you chose more than the name. I'm just giving you information to help your mock draft because it seems the Eagles have shown interest in Nassib. Regardless, you're ignoring just how bad the secondary is and the only way a QB in the first 2 rounds can be justified is if Foles regresses. He already sees the field pre-snap better than any quarterback that's been in Philadelphia under Andy Reid and his game is getting better every week. If that continues, he's the QB next year. (This is why it's too early to do mock drafts)

To explain just how bad the secondary has been, right now the Eagles need 2 safeties, and at least 1 cornerback. Yes, they have been that weak in the secondary. Like I said, they don't have one safety with NFL starter talent. So fine, they can get a good safety in the 3rd, but are they going to get a CB and another S in the 4th and 5th that can also start?

The Browns need CB help more than a pass rusher, and 5 spots when there are no Luck, RG3, Claiborne, Kalil equivalent prospects available, isn't that much of a reach. Since Phil Taylor came back, the line is different. I agree adding Montgomery would make a nice duo, but they really seem to be ok there and it's not like he's the second coming of Bruce Smith. CB is a huge hole opposite Joe Haden.

maybe u guys should try NNAMDI at Safety or trade him to someone ever here of FA. drafts cant fill every need but im sure you guys can get 1 corner and 1 safey in FA.

as for the browns pick montgomery is head and shoulders better than banks atleast to me

[bwallstreet]

For tampa..personally i woudlnt mind fluker but i dont think he will be the pick

Our gm has had 30 draft picks hes drafted 1 offensive lineman, he says he likes to evaluate them at the professional level and hes had success with it...donald penn, demar dotson, ted larsen, jamon meredith....two starters and two quality backups currently starting...practice squad guys, udfas who bounce around and under the radar FAs...he has something very specific he looks for in guys and it works for him

Anyway d.j. fluker is a steal at that pick by my estimation...i assume hes that low cuz hes not well suited for the left side?

Personally i wanna see us make a move for tavon austin, even if it involves moving up a couple spots. A safety, corner, olb or dlineman would prob be a better choice in that order