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    Quote Originally Posted by cwick925 View Post
    I was more refering to PSD mocks and what not.. I just dont see why your fo would wanna use the xtra picks you accumulated last year to move up..
    You can NEVER judge a real life draft by mocks. Trades in mocks are a joke. Mocks are heavily influenced by name power and skill players so a lot of time there's reaches and other times you trade up because you know someone will go early because of name power. People get attacked, we don't have draft boards, there are so many variables. If you think that's a good source, please don't look at the mock offseason bc that gets nuts, entire teams get rearranged. Plus you always have to remember they are a one year thing in these drafts so you don't normally trade future picks or for them or consider the future as much, etc.

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    ESPN's Adam Schefter predicted on Sunday Countdown that USC's Matt Barkley will be the first quarterback selected in April's draft.
    "Mike Glennon and Geno Smith are in contention," Schefter acknowledged. "But when you speak to people around the league, they believe that Matt Barkley from USC -- despite being underwhelming in his stature -- will overwhelm them with his presence during the interview process. They believe that will be enough to propel him to be the top quarterback drafted this April." Although it's extremely early, there has been no separation yet among quarterbacks considered to be potential first-round picks in April. Therefore, Schefter's prediction is believable. A shoulder injury will keep Barkley from participating in next week's Senior Bowl, but he is expected to be healthy by February's Scouting Combine.

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    The NFL Network's Daniel Jeremiah tweeted Arkansas-Pine Bluff T Terron Armstead "made himself a lot of money" during the East-West Shrine week.
    Armstead was easily the best offensive lineman during the week of practice and may have earned himself a call up to the Senior Bowl if any injuries occur. His upper body can be jolted, but Armstead's lower body is athletic enough to anchor and redirect momentum. We would like to see him take some snaps at guard because of his exceptional mobility when pulling.

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    Raiders GM Reggie McKenzie considers Notre Dame ILB Manti Te'o a first-round talent, but he "wants to see how the current story surrounding Te'o unfolds before making" any judgments.
    This is likely the norm around NFL circles, and Te'o's interview during the pre-draft process just got a lot longer. The story is still unfolding and Te'o will likely be unavailable until the NFL Combine. He is a hammer between the tackles, but the Irish linebacker will likely be a good, not great, player in the NFL.

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    According to Walter Football's Charlie Campbell, multiple NFL scouts at the East-West Shrine expect Georgia OLB Jarvis Jones to fall out of the top-five picks in April's draft.
    Per the scouts, Jones is "not a good workout guy," and may struggle at the Combine, and isn't a "weight-room guy," either. One scout also noted Jones' medical condition of spinal stenosis. After his diagnosis at USC, Trojans team doctors told Jones "he should retire from football." Jones transferred to Georgia, of course, where he was medically cleared. Still, the work ethic and medical concerns are not indicative of a top-five prospect.

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    Former NFL scout Daniel Jeremiah likens Georgia LB Alec Ogletree' game to Steelers ILB Lawrence Timmons.
    Like Timmons, Ogletree is an explosive linebacker capable of playing inside and out. An inside 'backer by trade in Pittsburgh's 3-4, Timmons often starts at outside linebacker when James Harrison or LaMarr Woodley is injured. Jeremiah compares Ogletree to Timmons as a "bigger version" with explosive athleticism, but who struggles to take on blocks at the second level.

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    ESPN's Mel Kiper believes North Carolina State CB David Amerson will be a second-day draft choice in April.
    Kiper grouped Amerson in with draft-eligible cornerbacks, suggesting he doesn't believe the junior draft-eligible will convert to safety. "David Amerson from N.C. State had a high grade earlier in the year," Kiper said. "Was beaten far too much for my liking and others. He's dropped into that second or third-round mix."

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    Quote Originally Posted by NDMets57 View Post
    You can NEVER judge a real life draft by mocks. Trades in mocks are a joke. Mocks are heavily influenced by name power and skill players so a lot of time there's reaches and other times you trade up because you know someone will go early because of name power. People get attacked, we don't have draft boards, there are so many variables. If you think that's a good source, please don't look at the mock offseason bc that gets nuts, entire teams get rearranged. Plus you always have to remember they are a one year thing in these drafts so you don't normally trade future picks or for them or consider the future as much, etc.
    Yea most mocks are just crazy, I was just curious if there was any players that you guys thought your FO might try to move up for or if you guys think your content picking where your at

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    Quote Originally Posted by cwick925 View Post
    Yea most mocks are just crazy, I was just curious if there was any players that you guys thought your FO might try to move up for or if you guys think your content picking where your at
    I don't see us moving up. There are plenty of quality options at positions if need for us where we are currently slotted.


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    So I don't like the idea too much of drafting the guy, but Tavon Austin is a straight monster.

    I don't know if you all saw him much in West Virginia, but the guy is so damn fast. I heard he clocks in a 4.2 40 (even though he registers just under 4.4 on record right now). I've never seen anyone do more after the catch than him.

    If we didn't have a receiver of his style already (Givens), I would love this guy simply as a kick and punt returner. Shame he's such a small size, too, definitely way below the typical size for a WR.

    Would you guys be too upset if he got drafted by us?

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    This one is against Oklahoma. Pure beauty:

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    This is what ESPN insider says about his playmaking ability:

    "Arguably one of the nations' biggest playmakers with the ball in his hand. Transitions up field instantly after the catch. Possesses great peripheral vision, gets from 0-60 mph instantly and can maintain 5th gear through cuts making him extremely dangerous after the catch. Consistently made defenders look 'silly' trying to corral him in one-on-one situations. Displays an extra gear to out run pursuit and take it the distance when catching day light. Certainly has the top-end speed to stretch the field but lacks the size, strength and leaping ability to consistently win one-on-one battles."
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    or how about Kyle Long, Chris Long's brother, with our second rounder? Another really good LG prospect who is kinda raw but has the potential to be great. I feel having family on the team will motivate each other to do well, constantly pushing each other.

    I wouldn't mind grabbing him in the second round if we miss on Warmack or don't sign anyone from FA.

    He's almost 6'7" at 311 pounds. He's ranked as the 3rd best guard behind Warmack and Cooper and 43rd overall..
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    Quote Originally Posted by rabueed View Post
    So I don't like the idea too much of drafting the guy, but Tavon Austin is a straight monster.

    I don't know if you all saw him much in West Virginia, but the guy is so damn fast. I heard he clocks in a 4.2 40 (even though he registers just under 4.4 on record right now). I've never seen anyone do more after the catch than him.

    If we didn't have a receiver of his style already (Givens), I would love this guy simply as a kick and punt returner. Shame he's such a small size, too, definitely way below the typical size for a WR.

    Would you guys be too upset if he got drafted by us?

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    This one is against Oklahoma. Pure beauty:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxzPryPMB74

    This is what ESPN insider says about his playmaking ability:

    "Arguably one of the nations' biggest playmakers with the ball in his hand. Transitions up field instantly after the catch. Possesses great peripheral vision, gets from 0-60 mph instantly and can maintain 5th gear through cuts making him extremely dangerous after the catch. Consistently made defenders look 'silly' trying to corral him in one-on-one situations. Displays an extra gear to out run pursuit and take it the distance when catching day light. Certainly has the top-end speed to stretch the field but lacks the size, strength and leaping ability to consistently win one-on-one battles."
    im not impressed. for someone to be running a supposedly 4.2 40 he sure does get caught a lot after his catches in open space in front of him
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    Austin's like 170...dude's gonna be literally broken apart in the NFL.

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    Rab,

    I half agree with you on both.

    As far as Austin goes, I forget where I read about him, I believe TST, but every year I hope we draft an electric returner. WR or not, he would be more of a specialist for us, so I would be fine with drafting another WR. His ability to change direction in an instant, without even signaling he is going to change direction, is remarkable. He has very good field vision and excellent balance. I think he is a little too confident in his abilities and might need to catch in open space but he would make a dynamite returner. He would need to be on the right team in the NFL to be a good WR. I would love to have a returner about him but I would not draft him in the first round and we'd have to see if he'd even fall to us in the third round. With his size I'm surprised he's not a third round prospect, despite his incredible talents.

    As for Long, if the talent is there, I agree having two brothers play on a team can motivate each other, not that they need it. Kyle Long seems to be a little more all over the place and raw. Being with his brother could go either way without knowing the family dynamic. They could be very supportive of each other or Kyle could be that little brother who feels overshadowed because of his famous father and brother and wants to be on his own team. Here is a good read about his character, his arrest, his football knowledge, raw talent, etc.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nfl-sh...9838--nfl.html

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    http://www.stlouisrams.com/media-cen...a-5967c1a8aa7e

    Kyle Long...he really does sound just like Chris.

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