Last edited by vtmet; 12-09-2012 at 08:42 PM.
Yeah, considering Wright got a 7/$122M extension, Reyes was definitely worth 6/$106M to us since he was on the open market.
Yeah, there is none and there never will be an excuse for not keeping both.
Just so you know, it's a common theme in these parts to question the loyalties of seemingly overly negative fans. Long story short, don't do it.
Disagree with their points, their arguments all you like, but don't think for a second they care any less for our team than you do. Their negativity probably stems from many years of followingf this team and many years of frustration along with spotting patterns that give one a feeling of deja vu.
I'm not arguing for or against that stance right now. I'm just explaining it as a matter of perspective. It;s never a good idea to tell someone in here you don't agree with that he should consider following another team. So don't do it.
Now, to the issue of hope: On the surface I'd agree with you. You look around and they just signed one of baseball's top thirde baseman for the rest of his career. There's young Ike Davis manning first with the ability to do really great things if he ever figures it out. Matt Harvey opened some eyes last season and Zach Wheeler isn't too far behind. There's nothing more that needs to be said about RA Dickey assuming he's coming back for at least one more season. And Jon Niese and Dillon Gee and anything they can get from Johan rounds out a very formidable rotation.
So yeah, right there is hope. But there are problems down below. Other than the Wright signing, it doesnt look like the team is investing in anyone who isn't an affordeable place holder. You know things are pathetic when Scott Hairston played himself off the team by being our best outfielder. While other teams are filling holes, the Mets are stuck in them.
And since last season they showed no interest in bringing back Jose Reyes for what would have been a reasonable contract for someone of his ilkm there's every reason to wonder whether our front office/ownership will do what needs to be done to bring this team around again.
That's where the no hope sentiment comes from, much more than the prospects and trade possibilities.
But as I'm fond of saying, reasonable people can disagree.
Look forward to exchanging thoughts on all things Mets going forward.
Last edited by fanofclendennon; 12-09-2012 at 09:31 PM.
"Ain't got the call no more. Got a lot of sinful idears – but they seem kinda sensible...."
As much as I love and miss having Reyes, I believe that he will never be a "winner". I see David Wright in different light.
I'm not losing too much sleep over losing Reyes honestly. I think their are better ways to spend the money. We need to spend on a right handed power hitting OFer next offseason...whether we trade for Olt/Myers or not.
All in all, I am more pissed that we didn't trade Reyes for prospects. Thats my gripe. Not that we didn't sign him, but that we just let him walk for basically nothing. It was almost as if Reyes was doing so good that season that Sandy and company were too afraid to make the smart move and trade him for a haul of prospects. Its a shame, but I can't blame them too much because I was afraid of the idea of trading him as well.
As far as the future is concerned, I am optimistic. We haven't had these many good, young, difference making pitchers in quite some time. If Wheeler and Harvey become legit, they will be able to build around those two and Niese for years to come (thats without talking about the whole Dickey situation). I am excited for that.
This team will need to find a way to build up its core of everyday players, specifically by adding right handed hitters with some power to play the OF and possibly Catcher (tough position to fill though). That will be the real test going forward. Will the Wilpons spend the money? Will the Mets be able to build in this area through the farm? Will they have to trade from a position of strength (starting pitching)?
I wouldn't say I am overly optimistic that these things will work out. I am extremely optimistic about the future of this starting rotation, and hopeful that this team will improve in the other areas.
So overall, no I am not overly optimistic, but their are some great bright spots...and because of that I have hope.
I mean, whats the point of being a fan if you don't have any hope? Its one thing to be negative, but you gotta have some hope...especially when you have a few reasons to have hope (Wheeler, Harvey, Niese).
Last edited by metswon69; 12-09-2012 at 09:56 PM.
How is that being a fan?
Go root for another team if that's the case.
After wading through this thread I still have high hopes for the Mets.
But I have absolutely no hope that we will ever be able to have a completely constructive, positive, amicable thread, without disrespect, name calling and hatred for the FO and owners.
BTW, the official meaning of BRB is Back of Rotation Bums.
Former B'klyn Dodger fan. Mets Maniac since 1962.