Could Bradley Beal be like Evan Turner

[thevcballer]

you bold my post nthen still misread it? i didnt say he is an all star right now. Im not making anyone look bad seeing how if i really wanted to i could make a decent case for ET this year over a good handful of all star level players from a statistics standpoint

ET Wont ever be an allstar player at any point in his carrer that should have been obvious on draft day let alone 3 years into his carrer.

in his carrer he might fluke into 1 allstar game but i wouldnt hold my breath on that.

[2-ONE-5]

ET Wont ever be an allstar player at any point in his carrer that should have been obvious on draft day let alone 3 years into his carrer.

in his carrer he might fluke into 1 allstar game but i wouldnt hold my breath on that.

i dont get how u can say that with confidence? I mean hell u have his stats in ur sig. Your gonna tell me if he continues to improve off being a 15/7/4 player he wont make an all-star team? He very well is starting to look like a potential 18/8/5 player and that my friend is an all star. Can he sustain this level of play, i dont know, we will see.

[j-bay]

Beal has done very well the last few games. He is really showing his potenial despite the Wizards losing.

[Lakers4life08]

He don't have star potential...but he can be really good player in the future

[thevcballer]

i dont get how u can say that with confidence? I mean hell u have his stats in ur sig. Your gonna tell me if he continues to improve off being a 15/7/4 player he wont make an all-star team? He very well is starting to look like a potential 18/8/5 player and that my friend is an all star. Can he sustain this level of play, i dont know, we will see.

i dont think 47.5% from Deep is sustainable
i dont think he would have 7 RPG if this where a good team with decent rebounding
I also doubt his scoring would be this high on a good team
that's the key here to make the all-star game unless its trough fan vote you typically have to win.
You also need to be a standout guy on a team that Wins.
even if in the next few years we turn out good with/without Bynum Turner wont be our best player when we do. If anyone gets an alstar nod within the next few years its Jrue

[mrblisterdundee]

This is Crawford's 3rd year and I believe he is now 24 versus Beal is still in his 1st year and 19. I will agree with you that I don't have definitive proof that Beal is better, but I do have circumstantial evidence.

I was comparing Crawford at 22 to Beal at 19. I don't think that's even a very significant difference, considering Beal's always been shorter and slightly heavier, and body build is more important than tree years' difference.

Crawford is a career 41/31/81 shooter on 13 shots with this year just being a hair better. Beal so far is 36/32/86 on 11. Which is better?

For his rookie season, Beal is 35.8 percent on his field goals, 30.5 percent from three and 84.3 percent from the line. For his career, Crawford is 39.4 percent on his field goals, 28.8 from three and 81.4 from the line. The differences at least equal out, and Crawford has kept a 3.6-percent higher field goal percentage throughout two and a quarter seasons.
Crawford's also averaging 3.5 points per 36 minutes more than Beal, who gets slightly more playing time.

If we're talking about rookie years, we're talking about Beal having higher true shooting percentages and effective field goal percentages as well as superior offensive and defensive ratings. Crawford actually produced a negative win share his rookie year.

Beal averages 47.1 on his true shooting percentage and 41.3 percent on his effective field goal percentage. While Crawford averaged 45.6 percent as a rookie, he's averaged 47.9 percent over his entire career. He also averages a 43.8 effective field goal percentage. He's also got a higher percentage as a rookie.
While averaging a slightly lower true shooting percentage as a rookie, he scored two more points per 36 minutes.
Check your numbers better.

All that and here's really what is at the heart of my Crawford argument: he's a chucker. He's played enough seasons with a low enough FG% and a high enough volume of shots to classify him as that. He just looks better right now because the Wizards are hard up for scoring options just like the Wolves with Beasley a couple years ago. Beal is adjusting to the league, Crawford has been chucking at 18attempts/36minutes for 3 years now.

As for him being a chucker, he's averaged more points per 36 minutes and a higher effective field goal percentage, so he must be doing something right. He has been a more effective and efficient scorer over two and a quarter seasons than Beal has been in a quarter of a season.

[topdog]

I was comparing Crawford at 22 to Beal at 19. I don't think that's even a very significant difference, considering Beal's always been shorter and slightly heavier, and body build is more important than tree years' difference.


For his rookie season, Beal is 35.8 percent on his field goals, 30.5 percent from three and 84.3 percent from the line. For his career, Crawford is 39.4 percent on his field goals, 28.8 from three and 81.4 from the line. The differences at least equal out, and Crawford has kept a 3.6-percent higher field goal percentage throughout two and a quarter seasons.
Crawford's also averaging 3.5 points per 36 minutes more than Beal, who gets slightly more playing time.


Beal averages 47.1 on his true shooting percentage and 41.3 percent on his effective field goal percentage. While Crawford averaged 45.6 percent as a rookie, he's averaged 47.9 percent over his entire career. He also averages a 43.8 effective field goal percentage. He's also got a higher percentage as a rookie.
While averaging a slightly lower true shooting percentage as a rookie, he scored two more points per 36 minutes.
Check your numbers better.


As for him being a chucker, he's averaged more points per 36 minutes and a higher effective field goal percentage, so he must be doing something right. He has been a more effective and efficient scorer over two and a quarter seasons than Beal has been in a quarter of a season.

Beal's rookie season is in progress... his numbers obviously are going to be different when you get around to responding a couple weeks later. So that is a ridiculous comment.

I'm going to give you a couple guesses as to why Beal plays more. Then, I'm going to tell you it's because the coaching staff knows Crawford is a chucker whereas Beal attempts to get his teammates involved and because Beal is a rookie who needs time to adjust to the league and show what kind of player he really is.

The sample size is too small on Beal and the returns are too early to make any solid determinations. Crawford has had time to show what he is and "Buckets Junior" as I just heard him called on TNT last night is a chucker.

[bholly]

It's bholly, isn't it... That guy has been trouble since day 1! Haha, just kidding..

Dude. Come back to us!

[mrblisterdundee]

Beal's rookie season is in progress... his numbers obviously are going to be different when you get around to responding a couple weeks later. So that is a ridiculous comment.

I'm going to give you a couple guesses as to why Beal plays more. Then, I'm going to tell you it's because the coaching staff knows Crawford is a chucker whereas Beal attempts to get his teammates involved and because Beal is a rookie who needs time to adjust to the league and show what kind of player he really is.

The sample size is too small on Beal and the returns are too early to make any solid determinations. Crawford has had time to show what he is and "Buckets Junior" as I just heard him called on TNT last night is a chucker.

You can say "chucker" all you want, but it doesn't change the fact that Crawford's been a more prolific and efficient scorer over two and one-quarter seasons than Beal has in one-quarter of a season. If that's the case, you could call Beal a "chucker" for being a less efficient scorer.
As for getting other teammates involved, Crawford averages 2.8 more assists per 36 minutes. He gets 2.3 more assists per game than Beal even while getting slightly less playing time.
Let's both agree that making judgments on Beal's overall worth is pointless at this time.