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  1. 12-09-2012, 02:32 AM #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Stanton View Post
    Love - PER - 22.43
    Splitter- PER - 21.09
    Griffin - PER - 20.23
    Lee - PER - 18.94
    On nba.com, its says 11.85

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tiago_splitter/

    and for for Lee its 23.05

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/david_lee/
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    Quote Originally Posted by asandhu23 View Post
    On nba.com, its says 11.85

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tiago_splitter/

    and for for Lee its 23.05

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/david_lee/
    They're not the same thing.


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    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asandhu23 View Post
    On nba.com, its says 11.85

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/tiago_splitter/

    and for for Lee its 23.05

    http://www.nba.com/playerfile/david_lee/
    I dont think ANYONE can ACTUALLY say Splitter is playing better ball than David Lee.
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    Jimmer still being BLACK BALLED by the illuminati/homeboys...
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    If Jimmer were to be given free reign offensively, the team would basically quit on the organization out of jealousy and envy. The white man is the minority in this game and the black players will be damned if the white man shows him up at his own game. Similar situation happening with Kevin Love, the team has to surround him with foreigners and whites because black players won't succumb to the greatness that is Kevin Love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Stanton View Post
    Love - PER - 22.43
    Splitter- PER - 21.09
    Griffin - PER - 20.23
    Lee - PER - 18.94
    Players tend to have a higher PER in limited minutes. PER also judges efficiency which is different than impact. So you want the top 3 in PER from each position to make the all star team?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Stanton View Post
    Love - PER - 22.43
    Splitter- PER - 21.09
    Griffin - PER - 20.23
    Lee - PER - 18.94
    Do you think Gregg Smith is a top 10 player in the nba?


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    Quote Originally Posted by sf-fanatic View Post
    Players tend to have a higher PER in limited minutes. PER also judges efficiency which is different than impact. So you want the top 3 in PER from each position to make the all star team?
    PER and efficiency isn't synonymous. And which players you have in mind to say that their PER is inflated by their lack of minutes? Shouldn't more mins = more counting stats = a higher PER?


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    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sf-fanatic View Post
    Do you think Gregg Smith is a top 10 player in the nba?
    No, but he produces like one in the minutes he's given.


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    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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  10. 12-09-2012, 02:47 AM #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by sf-fanatic View Post
    Do you think Gregg Smith is a top 10 player in the nba?
    No... Top ten? Thought we were comparing the PF position for the All Star game. Never said anyone was better. Just said that these players had better numbers. Also didn't include Duncan who leads the pack. Also note: Splitter has had a better PER than Lee last season also. So wouldn't you think that's a bit telling?
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    Why aren't Greg Smith and Splitter playing 38mpg
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    If Jimmer were to be given free reign offensively, the team would basically quit on the organization out of jealousy and envy. The white man is the minority in this game and the black players will be damned if the white man shows him up at his own game. Similar situation happening with Kevin Love, the team has to surround him with foreigners and whites because black players won't succumb to the greatness that is Kevin Love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Stanton View Post
    Metrics?
    Common sense


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    If Currys defense is so bad, why do the warriors have the third best defensive team in the league? Why do opposing point guards have a less than average per of 14.9 when Curry is in the game? Why does curry LEAD the nba with a plus minus of +416.
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    You can rattle off all of the stats you want with no context whatsoever. You still said Curry is the 4th best player in the league.
    I guess stats aren't factual when rattled off?
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    I can probably name at least 10 players whos PER decreased due to more minutes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by sf-fanatic View Post
    I can probably name at least 10 players whos PER decreased due to more minutes.
    I get that... And if its an issue take Splitter out and add Duncan. Now what?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arch Stanton View Post
    I get that... And if its an issue take Splitter out and add Duncan. Now what?
    Then you are just speaking common sense?

    No one argued Duncan was a better player than Lee?


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    no, he will get buried by the norms unfortunately.

    If you want the ultimate, you've got to be willing to pay the ultimate price. It's not tragic to die doing what you love.
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    Regardless: The Thread is asking if David Lee is an all-star. Tell me which of these players has he proven to be better than:

    Love
    Griffin
    Zbo
    Duncan
    Al Jeff/Paul Milsap
    LMA
    Dirk (I don't kno when he's scheduled to comeback however)
    Ryan Anderson
    Duncan
    Gasol.

    His chances are EXTREMELY low.


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    Shoot I'd even put up Glen Rice and Mitch Richmond in their prime at or slightly better than James. Even Glenn Robinson who is a forgotten beast.


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