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    Quote Originally Posted by fanofclendennon View Post
    Trusting Soriano to repeat last year's performance after the previous how many, 3? is a sucker's bet.

    I wouldn't touch him with a 10-foot pole, as it were.
    You are begging the question my good friend..Would you take him with a 15 foot pole ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NY Sports Fan View Post
    You are begging the question my good friend..Would you take him with a 15 foot pole ?
    No, I try to keep my thang as far away as possible from such things.
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    I'd take a flier on him at up to $6m/year, and for two modest prospects like German Gonzalez and Wilfredo Tovar. Something like that anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sick Of It All View Post
    If the Cubs would put up 20-26 million of that 36 I would do it, but doubt that will happen.
    Figure Ludwick got $15M for two years. If Chicago picked up $21M of the $36M owed that would be the same salary for two years. And that gives us a power bat with a chance to have better stats than Ludwick or a Cody Ross could deliver. Call me psychic [stuna i'm sure would have other nice words] but I thought we could have swapped him for Bay a year ago when Chicago was eager to move him...two bad, equal contracts. He averages 34 95 .273---we sure could use that. If Chicago figures it has too far to go before contending then moving Soriano makes sense. Give them a middling pitching prospect or two and see what happens...he starred in his first tour of duty in New York...it would be nice for once to see an ex-Yankee farmhand excel for the Mets instead of the other way around [see Doc and Straw and maybe count in Coney].

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    If Chicago picks up the majority of his salary like Sick said, I think it's a no-brainer. He'd be a nice fit in the middle of the order.

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    Yeah if Chicago paid a huge chunk of that money of course you do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by metsbulls1025 View Post
    Yeah if Chicago paid a huge chunk of that money of course you do it.
    No more Bay, Torres, Acosta, RRamirez, KRod, OPerez, Castillo---except for Santana, who was worth the deal, and Frankie Francisco who has a lot of improving to do---we have no more bad contracts left to swap. What's going on here? Has sanity finally taken over???

    And while I loved Reyes and wished we could have kept him for max $15M for five years [which he might have taken at one point] or traded him for a big chip like Wheeler, imagine how we fans would be complaining if he remained oft-injured and batted .265 for the next six years.

    Next year we start off with very little left to the Santana contract [would we re-sign him and extend his contract at a fair market price if he is an ace this year and remains healthy???] and some of Bay's but maybe $70M committed and $40M to spend. With a few kids mixed in we could get good in a hurry---see Washington Nationals 2011-2012.
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    I would consider it if the Cubs ate a good portion of his remaining contract. A 20-30 homer, .260+ hitter who has much more range than Duda and probably more than Bay too. Hes gonna be 37 but still producing, Id like to have him without a doubt


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    On the Cubs website they noted that Jon Heyman of the NYP reported that the Cubs would be willing to trade Soriano and pick up $26 of the $36M/two years remaining on his contract in return for a good prospect. Leaving Harvey, Wheeler and Nimmo out of the discussion for now is there any Met farmhand so untouchable that you wouldn't make that trade? Would you trade Mejia or Familia or WFlores even up for Soriano? I would be tempted to. A 30 home run hitter with 100 RBIs for $5M a year. Opinions?
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    I might be mistaken but i heard that they were willing to eat $24 million on his contract and they need a first baseman i would look to move Duda and J. Marte or Cory Mazzoni or Jeurys Familia
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    Quote Originally Posted by KingsCountyNY View Post
    I might be mistaken but i heard that they were willing to eat $24 million on his contract and they need a first baseman i would look to move Duda and J. Marte or Cory Mazzoni or Jeurys Familia
    Duda for Soriano is intriguing....Duda should be playing first base and he could mash 40 homers in Wrigley....I would say we would regret that deal in two years. If Duda goes it should be for young talent only. For Soriano its a salary dump so you give up spare parts like Aderlin Rodriguez.....wouldn't it be ironic if he got traded again for ARod?????!!!?!?!!!
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    No way we should give the Cubs anything more than a token low level prospect. As others have said, this is a pure salary dump. Wait them out and they will grab their ankles.
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