Im talking more his longevity of his career. And when you compare the superstar players who have won and who havn't won..the one's who got so many fans from their showmanship never won like the ones who took the easiest bucket..

then again guys like DR J won..

actually I dont know why I ever bought into that argument. I agree with what you said and what I used to fully believe. The media makes you think Kobe's got this and that the "assasins" mentality of winningness etc. Really Tmac, Iverson, Carter getting a prime Shaq would have to be a championship AND show..