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    2013 FIFA Club World Cup: Corinthians champions

    First game was today as the J-League winners won against Oceania's team 1-0. The Japanese coach said before the game, they were going to show how superor they were to the part-timers and although the GK of New Zealand's team saved a lot of chances, it made the Japanese coach look foolish.

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    http://www.soccerbyives.net/2012/12/...-and-more.html

    come on Chelsea....hoping they win it all!
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    This will be easy for Chelsea.

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    very good final, well played by both sides but Corinthians were just better. that midfield is absolutely sickening, Paulinho is already a monster but can only get better in the future. dunno why Moses started over Oscar, big mistake there by Rafa

    PS to all the naysayers: where you all at now??? i dare any of the doubters to say Brazilian teams aren't among the best in the world. not after playing 90 minutes of football better than last season's UCL champions

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    brazilian teams are not among the best teams in the world right now

    that internacional team from 06 will destroy this corinthians team

    the thing is, chelsea is just the worst CL winner EVER.

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    thats what you get when a PHONY champion represents your continent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDrive View Post
    very good final, well played by both sides but Corinthians were just better. that midfield is absolutely sickening, Paulinho is already a monster but can only get better in the future. dunno why Moses started over Oscar, big mistake there by Rafa

    PS to all the naysayers: where you all at now??? i dare any of the doubters to say Brazilian teams aren't among the best in the world. not after playing 90 minutes of football better than last season's UCL champions
    1-0?

    Tell me what was the result in the european supercup when cowards f.c faced a real team?


    Chelsea is the most undeserving champion EVER in any competition in the entire history of the game.

    they simply shouldnt have been there.
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    Brazilian teams are really underrated

    Too many what Ifs

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    Quote Originally Posted by alencp3 View Post
    brazilian teams are not among the best teams in the world right now

    that internacional team from 06 will destroy this corinthians team

    the thing is, chelsea is just the worst CL winner EVER.
    yeah, they are. teams like Corinthians, Fluminense, Atletico Mineiro, Gremio, Sao Paulo, Internacional would compete in any of the European leagues easily. the problem is people are highly underrating the players in Sudamerica until they actually transfer to Europe. Hernanes is well rated in Lazio now but he was already this good back in SPFC, probably even better as he was more well rounded. same thing is happening to Paulinho now, already one of the best CM in the world but until he moves to Europe, he "can't" be in that category

    Internacional is also a Brazilian team so i don't see your point there lol. and 2006 isn't that far behind either, Internacional got a lot of very good players since then like D'Alessandro, Guinazu, Damiao and the recently sold Oscar. they're still a powerhouse in Brazil, only other teams got a whole lot better during those 6+ years

    Quote Originally Posted by Hellcrooner View Post
    1-0?

    Tell me what was the result in the european supercup when cowards f.c faced a real team?


    Chelsea is the most undeserving champion EVER in any competition in the entire history of the game.

    they simply shouldnt have been there.
    1-0 is still a win? this wasn't a lucky win if that's what you're implying. Corinthians played extremely well, better than Chelsea during almost the entire match. the defensive work from both sides was solid, the difference was Corinthians' midfield was better, Cassio was amazing in goal and Torres was Torres

    undeserving, worst winner ever, should have won by more, blah blah blah... look at all them excuses

    Quote Originally Posted by hizpcstr View Post
    Brazilian teams are really underrated
    tell me about it. Shakhtar with their team composed of 2/3 low profile Brazilian signings been making noise in Europe for the past 3 years or so. they wouldn't even be top 7 in the Brasileirao today

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoopsDrive View Post
    yeah, they are. teams like Corinthians, Fluminense, Atletico Mineiro, Gremio, Sao Paulo, Internacional would compete in any of the European leagues easily. the problem is people are highly underrating the players in Sudamerica until they actually transfer to Europe. Hernanes is well rated in Lazio now but he was already this good back in SPFC, probably even better as he was more well rounded. same thing is happening to Paulinho now, already one of the best CM in the world but until he moves to Europe, he "can't" be in that category

    Internacional is also a Brazilian team so i don't see your point there lol. and 2006 isn't that far behind either, Internacional got a lot of very good players since then like D'Alessandro, Guinazu, Damiao and the recently sold Oscar. they're still a powerhouse in Brazil, only other teams got a whole lot better during those 6+ years


    thats because around 80% of the brazilian great prospects end up being total scrubs when they move to europe... dont get me started with the denilsons, robinhos and many more... sure there are kakas and dinhos but they werent really that good in brazil... their new clubs made them that good ( milan and psg in this case )

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    Paulinho failed in Lithuania of all places and now is wanted by Inter (has agreed on a deal, just waits for Corinthians to sell now or in summer)... life is weird

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    Quote Originally Posted by alencp3 View Post
    thats because around 80% of the brazilian great prospects end up being total scrubs when they move to europe... dont get me started with the denilsons, robinhos and many more... sure there are kakas and dinhos but they werent really that good in brazil... their new clubs made them that good ( milan and psg in this case )
    that's what you get when you expect every great prospect to be on Ronaldo's level. a lot of those players you mention are actually quite good and have had decent to good careers in Europe. there's also the fact that these young players are moving to an entirely new continent, having to change almost every facet of their lifestyle. not every player is going to react the same. some will crumble under the pressure but that doesn't mean their football talent isn't there

    what if we took about 100 20yo European prospect and moved them to Brazil? you think all of them will develop nicely? hell no

    and Kaka wasn't made good by Milan. they just happened to get him when his form skyrocketed and they knew how to deploy him. SPFC made him good and he was already on pace to become one of the best players in Sudamerica when he was sold. Milan made a very good buy but that's it

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    hell alrighty then... my first memory of kaka was from WC 2002, he played only half and hour or so as far as i remember and was the most useless and the most bizarre player ive seen... he literally didnt have idea what the hell he was doing

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    Quote Originally Posted by alencp3 View Post
    thats because around 80% of the brazilian great prospects end up being total scrubs when they move to europe... dont get me started with the denilsons, robinhos and many more... sure there are kakas and dinhos but they werent really that good in brazil... their new clubs made them that good ( milan and psg in this case )
    You can cherry pick the brazilian ( and any nationality for that matter) players that have great careers and the ones that have been awful.

    Too many what Ifs

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