guys i love the Anthony Parkers, Alan Andersons and Jorge Garbojosa's of the world but the reason they are always so critical to our success is because the players we usually have in our starting lineups are so one dimensional. they are starving for someone to do the little things, the hustle plays, passing the ball unselfishly.
rather than overvaluing these types of guys we should just look to acquire more complete ballplayers. my opinion.
They move Bargs, who's value is low (because we are doing well without him plus the fact that everyone including my dog knows we want to get rid of him) for Gasol who's value is also low right now. Throw in Fields is bad contract and we can clear cap for 2014. If Gasol plays well, which I think he has a chance if he's the focal point of an offense, we may sneak into the playoffs. Even if we come just close, we gain value by lowering that draft pick on OKC that we lost in the Lowry trade. If we suck with Gasol, then we trade him in the offseason for some expirings and a pick and tank for Wiggins in 2014.
Worst case we get a few picks and free up cap and can tank for Wiggins.
Last edited by Heediot; 12-30-2012 at 01:10 PM.
I will be happy if the Raptors make a trade that they get a first round pick in return.
We need a Fundamentally Sound SG
I don't know how much the Rockets value Terrence Jones but I think he'd be nice piece to have. I liked him coming out of college. He can play either PF or SF and is a former PG so he has a good handle. He has potential to have a decent all around game. He also played and was friends with T.Ross in high school.
Maybe a trade like Kleiza, Acy & a second round pick for Jones & Cook?
That's probably unrealistic. I doubt they'd even want to give him up this early in his career but Kleiza could offer him some solid depth and mins at PF & SF while Jones is sitting in the D-League. If/When Bargnani gets traded Jones would be able to get some mins
Last edited by AmalgaMosaic; 12-30-2012 at 02:44 PM.
I do that trade in a heartbeat. Except I force 'protection' on the pick for 2013 and then very little for 2014 to try and get us a draft pick in a better draft.
As much as it would be awesome to get an upgrade at SF I am not really sure we can get a clear upgrade in production anywhere. Rudy Gay would awesome, not happening. Luol Deng, ditto. I am not sure Granger is a clear upgrade at the 3 considering what we would probably need to give up.
I think the most realistic option and second biggest need is getting another decent to solid C. We only need one for a couple of seasons till Val is fully ready to take the reins. I still want Val getting solid minutes but now it can be based more on him earning it. Plus Val is going to improve faster going against Gasol in practice over Gray or Johnson.
He isn't starting and doing the little things, he is coming off the bench and providing winning plays.
Having him coming off the bench has been huge for our second unit. Orlando went small against us, and we put him at the 4 with a second unit of:
Those 5 guys alone scored 55 points, hauled in 22 rebounds and dished out 12 assists. They play like that and I like our chances of winning a lot more games..
I just read that millsap is unhappy about a fourth quarter benching , and has been steadily losing minutes. Maybe a trade could be on the horizon . Anyone think he could be a productive SF... ? I know he plays PF
( @Rotoworld_BK: Millsap upset about fourth quarter benching http://t.co/h1YkdX0v )
Al Jefferson is also rumored to be available. I would love him for C/PF. I think him, Jonas and Ed Davis sharing the 4 and 5 spot would be great. Jonas is still a rookie and needs time to improve, I think an Al Jefferson could give him some help this year. Jonas can come off the bench.
Jefferson and Millsap both have expiring contracts. Get them both for Caledron and Bargnani. Throw in small pieces here and there and make the trade. I think Utah needs a point guard bad and Caledron can be that guy.
I think the Raps can seriously make a run for the playoffs. Only 3.5 games back. Philly and Boston fading fast. Raps have the momentum and a good balance of players. I think they can slide into 7th or 8th when its all set and done.
What do you guys think??
Andrea Bargnani (only guy in the deal to have an extra year remaining on deal).
Last edited by Sanyo; 12-31-2012 at 01:16 PM.
Utah should be looking for picks or young guys with those two.
If they want picks, then yeah its not likely going to be us. But then again, any team interested is likely going to be a late round pick anyways for Utah, I might just go for the sure thing in Jose who you know will be a great asset and a good locker room guy over a pick that might be 20th and above and a crapshoot.
But, yeah I guess it just depends up to Utah at this point.
A Denver fan suggested this:
Pretty intriguing deal actually. They then went on to say:
Denver gets: Calderon+ Bargs+ Sac 2nd
Toronto gets: Chandler+ Miller+ Mozgov+ TPE
Toronto (cut Pietrus):
That's a very deep team with some upside and trade pieces.
west 10 million (expiring)
granger 13 million
augustine 3.5 million (expiring)
total = 26.5 million
bargs 10 million
calderon 10.5 million (expiring)
kleiza 4.5 million (player option)
lucas 1.5 million
total = 26.5 million
Last edited by smith&wesson; 12-31-2012 at 04:26 PM.