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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeleafs View Post
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cf9m3v7


    Bargs and Lowry

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    Cousins, Salmons (contract dump), Brooks


    would give us:

    Caldy/Brooks
    Demar/Ross
    Pietrus/AA/Kleiza
    Cousins/Ed
    Val/Amir

    Evans best season came with Hawes spreading the paint.

    Cousins attitude has considerably lowered his value. If Lowry is to be included I would be on board with something like this.

    (Bargnani, Lowry) for (Cousins, Garcia, 2014 pick).

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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedTofuz View Post
    no, that was preseason stats.
    He averaged 19 pts 5 reb, 2 asst on 41% shooting in 33 minutes.
    Your right I must have been looking at the wrong column

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    Quote Originally Posted by B2B View Post
    Evans best season came with Hawes spreading the paint.

    Cousins attitude has considerably lowered his value. If Lowry is to be included I would be on board with something like this.

    (Bargnani, Lowry) for (Cousins, Garcia, 2014 pick).
    I like this trade as well .. His suggestion of sending brooks back was good because it gives us a good back up pg ..

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    Your right I must have been looking at the wrong column
    no worries. But, does that change your mind on granger? prior to those seasons he had been averaging 20+ points for 3 consequtive season. He had a decrease in minutes, but still rebounds well, passes decently, is lights out from 3, plays defense, and is good size at the 3 spot standing at 6"8. I rather keep ross than derozan to be honest, but as of right now, derozan is more pollished offensively,thouogh ross is clearly the better defender and 3 point shoter. Its either bargnani + ross, or bargnani + derozan I guess. It would be a good trade imo..


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    It makes sense to trade granger, hes a lot like george.But george is a better rebounder, defender and passer. theyre both very good shooters, both shooting nearly 40% from 3. George is younger and keeper, and has no extravagent injury history. David west is expiring and will probably sign with another team than indiana. Indian will probably either give hansbrough the starting spot, or sign a free agent. I think bargnani would look good next to hibbert.

    George Hill
    Terrence ross
    Paul George
    Bargnani
    Hibbert

    Looks legit to me. A lot of 3 point shooting on that team.


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    Quote Originally Posted by FriedTofuz View Post
    no worries. But, does that change your mind on granger? prior to those seasons he had been averaging 20+ points for 3 consequtive season. He had a decrease in minutes, but still rebounds well, passes decently, is lights out from 3, plays defense, and is good size at the 3 spot standing at 6"8. I rather keep ross than derozan to be honest, but as of right now, derozan is more pollished offensively,thouogh ross is clearly the better defender and 3 point shoter. Its either bargnani + ross, or bargnani + derozan I guess. It would be a good trade imo..
    to be honest I think the pacers want to compete now and if they want to dangle Granger around they could include west and net something much better for themselves instead of losing west for nothing like your suggesting could happen. West is better then Barg's they could just re sign him.

    Quote Originally Posted by FriedTofuz View Post
    It makes sense to trade granger, hes a lot like george.But george is a better rebounder, defender and passer. theyre both very good shooters, both shooting nearly 40% from 3. George is younger and keeper, and has no extravagent injury history. David west is expiring and will probably sign with another team than indiana. Indian will probably either give hansbrough the starting spot, or sign a free agent. I think bargnani would look good next to hibbert.

    George Hill
    Terrence ross
    Paul George
    Bargnani
    Hibbert

    Looks legit to me. A lot of 3 point shooting on that team.
    why are you assuming that west won't go back ? And is that line up really better then

    Hill
    George
    Granger
    West
    Hibbert

    these guys did well last season with a healthy roster
    Last edited by smith&wesson; 12-24-2012 at 11:09 PM.

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    For us it would be nice if we kept one of derozan or Ross and added granger I agree but I don't see how it improves the pacers

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    Utah is our best bet, we've worked Calderon's value up high now and have a team needing a PG. He does everything Mo provided to them and even so will help their bigs out more.

    Something like
    Calderon, our 2nd and Fields
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    Marvin Williams and their unprotected first rounder


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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    to be honest I think the pacers want to compete now and if they want to dangle Granger around they could include west and net something much better for themselves instead of losing west for nothing like your suggesting could happen. West is better then Barg's they could just re sign him.



    why are you assuming that west won't go back ? And is that line up really better then

    Hill
    George
    Granger
    West
    Hibbert

    these guys did well last season with a healthy roster
    Oh sorry, I was recalling to what a pacer fan said somewhere, I cant exactly remember the rationale but it seemed convincing. Yeah, Either derozan Or ross would have to go in that trade. But yeah, west is averageinge 17/8 on a good shooting percetage while bargnani is averasging less than 40% on very low 16/5


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    btw, isnt cousins a center? This team should try and see what they can do to upgrade the 3 and 4 spots. Cousins, granger, if the right deal is in place, Id gladly take both of them. Milsap too. He'd definitly be great here in toronto, I can see 18/10 easily.


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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    i dunno but id rather keep them then trade them for okafor. considering that neither have good trade value id take out kleiza and include lowry or calderon to net someone more worth while. one of them should go imo. . lets use lowry

    so how bout

    bargs 10 million
    lowry 5.7 million
    = 15.7 million

    for

    cousins 3.8 million
    salmons 8 million
    aaron brooks 3.2 million
    = 15 million

    thats one scenerio ..another could be

    bargs 10 million
    lowy 5.7 million

    for

    al jeff 15 million


    another one could be

    al jeff 15 million
    milsap 7.2 million
    = 22.2 million

    for

    bargs 10 million
    amir 6 million
    fields 5 million
    = 21 million
    those are nice but i don't think they are terribly realistic. i don't see the team giving up on Lowry so damn easily.
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    those are nice but i don't think they are terribly realistic. i don't see the team giving up on Lowry so damn easily.
    Calderon will get traded if anyone since his value is so high right now like eagles said
    Last edited by smith&wesson; 12-25-2012 at 12:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagles4Lyfe View Post
    Utah is our best bet, we've worked Calderon's value up high now and have a team needing a PG. He does everything Mo provided to them and even so will help their bigs out more.

    Something like
    Calderon, our 2nd and Fields
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    Marvin Williams and their unprotected first rounder
    That's the best trade idea I've seen on this thread !!

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    Bargnani to San Antonio for Stephen Jackson
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Bargnani & Ross to Sacramento for Cousins and Salmons
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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