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    Quote Originally Posted by Raps Insider 12 View Post
    I like the idea especially getting Millsap.
    We'd also shed about 7 million at season's end with the Diop expiring contract which could aid in helping to resign him. And amnesty is still available (Kleiza or Amir) too if that helps BC's situation at all in bringing him back. Worst comes to worst, he leaves and the team has some off-season money to spend.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikeleafs View Post
    http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=cf9m3v7


    Bargs and Lowry

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    Cousins, Salmons (contract dump), Brooks


    would give us:

    Caldy/Brooks
    Demar/Ross
    Pietrus/AA/Kleiza
    Cousins/Ed
    Val/Amir

    I likey ... Cousins and Val can be a deadly front court for years to come

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    Quote Originally Posted by pebloemer View Post
    Mo Williams is out indefinitely for Utah, who are fighting for a playoff spot.

    Might be an opening for a Calderon trade there.

    Random idea because I bored:

    Toronto Trades: Calderon, Bargnani, Lucas
    Toronto Gets: Diop (7 million expiring), Millsap, Sessions

    Charlotte Trades: Diop, Sessions
    Charlotte Gets: Bargnani, Lucas

    Utah Trades: Millsap
    Utah Gets: Calderon

    With Mo Williams' injury, and Millsap and Jefferson both expiring at years end, it seems to make sense for them. The Kanter/Favors duo behind them means one of Millsap or Jefferson probably won't be brought back anyways, and Calderon is a solid fix for them at PG for the short-term.

    Raptor's move on from Bargnani and have another PF to carry the load in the load in the paint and provide a veteran presence. Whether or not he resigns would be in the air, but it is a nice option to have his rights. Session's replaces Calderon's production at backup PG. Diop helps give us off-season flexibility with his expiring deal.

    Charlotte takes a flyer on Bargnani. They have MKG, Walker, Biyombo and Gerald Henderson in a nice young core. Bargnani has the potential to help that core offensively. Charlotte gives up a nice expiring and a reliable backup in Sessions, but they also get Lucas back to fill the backup PG void. Overall it is a pretty low risk move for them at this point.
    Charlotte Bobcats have Mullens, why would they want Bargnani?

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    I likey ... Cousins and Val can be a deadly front court for years to come
    headcases want to win and win in a "preferred" city. we are neither of these, and Cousins will just be a huge headcase on a Toronto Raptor team

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byronicle View Post
    headcases want to win and win in a "preferred" city. we are neither of these, and Cousins will just be a huge headcase on a Toronto Raptor team
    he is not getting along with his coach sure, but id take a chance on him since we have a players coach and a decent core to surround him with.

    he can win in toronto a pass first pg in calderon could make him happy. plus in a weeker easter conference with cousins we could be as good as 4th if the team clicks.

    calderon/brooks
    ross/AA
    derozan/kleiza
    cousins/davis
    jonas/amir

    that looks pretty sexy to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    he is not getting along with his coach sure, but id take a chance on him since we have a players coach and a decent core to surround him with.

    he can win in toronto a pass first pg in calderon could make him happy. plus in a weeker easter conference with cousins we could be as good as 4th if the team clicks.

    calderon/brooks
    ross/AA
    derozan/kleiza
    cousins/davis
    jonas/amir

    that looks pretty sexy to me.
    it does look sexy

    but honestly these are the same risky trades that BC makes and has backfired on him, with fans asking for BC's head

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    Quote Originally Posted by Byronicle View Post
    it does look sexy

    but honestly these are the same risky trades that BC makes and has backfired on him, with fans asking for BC's head
    but this is a risk worth taking imo. cousins is still young and has time to mature and could be the 2nd or 3rd best C in the league in a year or two.

    plus in this deal we move lowry who is criticized for being too selfish and bargs who hasnt improved on anything since being in the league and has lost respect from the fans.

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    Bargnani for Okafor?
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    Bargnani for Okafor?
    I don't want to make a trade for the sake of making a trade. I would much rather try Bargnani as the sixth man.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daouds View Post
    i don't want to make a trade for the sake of making a trade. I would much rather try bargnani as the sixth man.
    +1

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    Quote Originally Posted by DaoudS View Post
    I don't want to make a trade for the sake of making a trade. I would much rather try Bargnani as the sixth man.
    so would i but it's not up to us. would you rather make a trade to make a trade or see him go right back into the starting lineup?
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    so would i but it's not up to us. would you rather make a trade to make a trade or see him go right back into the starting lineup?
    rather package him along with calderon or lowry and get someone better then frikken okafor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamiecballer View Post
    so would i but it's not up to us. would you rather make a trade to make a trade or see him go right back into the starting lineup?
    If the only options on the market are guys like Okafor, I would rather insert him back into the starting lineup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    rather package him along with calderon or lowry and get someone better then frikken okafor.
    so would i but that doesn't answer the question
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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    Quote Originally Posted by smith&wesson View Post
    rather package him along with calderon or lowry and get someone better then frikken okafor.
    what's your problem with Okafor? he's had a better career to this point than Bargnani has?
    Quote Originally Posted by nycericanguy View Post
    well unfortunately it looks like you were right about Bargs...

    but hopefully we can use his expiring, if not at least we unloaded Novak's deal...

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