The point is moot though since the Rangers are definitely re-signing him after missing out on Greinke.
Now that Greinke's been signed, all attention goes to Hamilton
You aren't doing nothing. You are letting your team develop and then making decisions based on the success and position of your team at a time when those decisions can be better influenced. Signing Hamilton is premature for the team. It isn't doing nothing. It's just not making a bad signing.We can't just sit back and do nothing.
Usually, the best moves in baseball are the moves you don't make.
Most fan bases just want stars and want payroll to be just whatever, because it doesn't affect the individual fans. But it's a near sighted view point. Hamilton doesn't improve the M's enough to spend the money, and you are better off taking the 12th overall pick this year, and evaluating your team in 12 months from now in an honest perspective.I am against Hamilton for more than 4. 100%. But I am for him for 4 years and under $100M. There's people in the Ms forum that want him for 7/175 if that's what it takes, and I get **** for saying that's nuts. I am one of the more skeptical. That should tell you something about our fan base.
You shouldn't give multi-year deals to guys over 30 first of all. But it can be justified if you are already a perennial contender with an opening at that players position with no one to fill it. Two major X's, and Hamilton has both of them easily with the M's
Phillies really do make the most sense. Aging team that has a small window to contend and holes in the corner outfield position that has the financial capabilities to maintain a high payroll.
Props to Fly-Eagles-Fly for the Sig
did you see the MOTO last year? jaso, seager, montero? who else is a legit 3-5 hitter in this FA market. this isnt the roid era, there is not going to be 40hr guys every winter and we have everything in our system but a cleanup guy.
10 consecutive years declining attendance, dont think the fanbase can use a name to get excited about?, 10 years of not making the playoffs and we have the $ to spend and we should sit on our hands? this isnt a bottom market team, we have a top 1/3rd revenue due to a regional and international fanbase.
and ur trying to put in stone that he leads to a 5 game increase , when you have montero, seager, saunders, ackley all at ascending points in their career, dont think is an added benefit to their development?, not to mention the pitching that is up and on the way... dont think in the next couple years a couple other vets may be influenced to come to SEA who otherwise wouldnt? since hamilton is a HOF caliber talent, you think at 34 he is all the sudden going to be chopped liver, there are guys like ryan howard, albert, fielder, arod and others who are in much more crippling deals.
we are better off taking the 12th pick in the draft and you say hamilton is risky?
u root for a winner bud, im a diehard Ms fan, there is no promising what will happen either way, but if the market for him is as reported we NEED him.... go away with your subjective opinion and quit passing it off like its gospel.
Last edited by Rain City; 12-08-2012 at 11:31 PM.
There is only one team that I can think of that added a big named free agent (expensive) at a bad time and it still managed to work out.
Nationals with signing Jayson Werth
But, they also had top draft picks helping out (Harper, Strasburg) so it's still a little different, and a good overall team coming along (Desmond, Zimmerman, Zimmerman). Very very rarely can you just sign a player and depend on him to produce enough for you offensively, and then you build around him. And the Nationals sucked for the first year anyway.
You could also say maybe the Giants with Zito, since they have won 2 WS championships with him, even though he has had nothing to do with their success. Imagine what they could have done if they didn't have to commit to these guys over these years. Both teams would have been better off without these guys.
The M's are not close enough to winning that would make this signing look like a good option for them. He will likely look like a bad contract to the team within 18 months.
Jeffy25, you're forgetting that the Mariners fans want Hamilton because he'll make them a more entertaining fourth place team. Big names sell tickets in Seattle, apparently.
Be that as it may! Still for someone like Hamilton you bite the bullet! As a diehard M's fan myself I can tell you a signing of this magnitude should take place.. Even if it means we miss out on the 12th overall pick.. We've been starved of a cleanup hitter for quite a while now.
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Ichiro actually did help our attendance last year, but i do agree that winning is the best and most significant way to have you're attendance rise
When the M's brought Griffey back in 09, it didn't help attendance, and everyone said it would.
It actually went down 200k from 08, even with bringing the franchise star back.
fans care for a few games, the first few of the season in April. And then they stop caring when the team sucks.