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    I actually think this draft you could see some trades in the top-5 this year because the teams at the top right now (Kansas City, Jacksonville, Oakland, and Philadelphia), I don't think one draft choice helps them.

    If you look at Kansas City, they could take just about anyone at the top and it is going to fill some kind of need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TDjacksonville View Post
    to see if he can play QB in the NFL. obviously hes not that good if i mock them a qb in round 1 and yes theres gonna be a big Blow up over there for the eagles

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    Oh sorry, I didn't realize that you were the end all, be all of QB scouting and mock drafts. Never mind me, I guess you've seen Foles play for the Eagles more then I have.

    I guess because you don't have a QB in the first round for the Chiefs or Jaguars you think that their quarterbacks are good enough? Even though KC will have a new regime, they will stick with Cassel and Quinn? And even though Gabbert has already proven to be completely average and Henne has washed out with another team, they're good enough to get another year. But Foles, who is playing with mostly 2nd and 3rd stringers, isn't good enough. Got it. You're probably right.

    And yes, I know there's going to be a blow up, as there should. If Foles continues to look better though, as he has pretty much every week, then there's no reason to not give him next year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDjacksonville View Post
    can never be to carefully with Jarvis condition and the fact he plays the run as well as a me in college makes me say he will be a pass rush specialist. ILBs are a dime a Dozen. hes not gonna be ELITE like a Patrick Willis but hes gonna be a solid starter. Richardson is gonna fly up the draft stock.
    This is a bad post IMO....Jones condition is serious IMO theres some people that wont care about it at all...How does a team like the Jets pass on Jarvis Jones... I dont know that they can.

    Manti Te'o should no be an ILB he should be a MLB in a 4-3 hes 1000% percent made for it just like Luke Kuechly...best thing for him would be to go to a 4-3 team and I think one will snatch him up. Best case for him is Chicago making a coup and trading up for him to replace Urlacher win-win for both sides

    I think your rating Richardson too highly..10-20 range seems more fair

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    I dont understand how you so radically changed your board...did you not know teams liked athletic freaks on 12/1 did you not know those players like Hunt were freaks on 12/1 did you not know Jones had spinal stenosis on 12/1?

    It just doesnt make sense you blowing up your entire first round in 5 days when no new information is available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    I actually think this draft you could see some trades in the top-5 this year because the teams at the top right now (Kansas City, Jacksonville, Oakland, and Philadelphia), I don't think one draft choice helps them.

    If you look at Kansas City, they could take just about anyone at the top and it is going to fill some kind of need.
    Not really. Our o-line is set. Wr corp is set. Depending if Dorsey is retained our d-line is set. We now need am ILB because of Belcher, and we need a starting corner. K Lewis is alight at safety but could be upgraded. We are just a poorly coached team with NO QB. There is very little chance we go anywhere but QB in the first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDjacksonville View Post
    because the chiefs have so many different holes and ALBERT could leave as a FA. im projecting that for now. he could also be moved to Guard and have a great Left side of the oline. they get a qb in round 2 whos just about as good as geno is.

    Teams love athletic marvels and i like richardson as the best Pass rushing DT in this draft. one of the jags biggest problems is no push from up the middle. richardson can do that.

    Ansah got that scheme versatility and athleticism that will get a team to slightly over value him but hes a clear upgrade at DE for the dolphins.

    as far ar margus goes some team will reach for athleticism and hunt is gonna be a great 3-4 End kinda in the JJ Watt mold but more athletic.

    as for jones that bone thing can scare off some teams. its all entirely possible he falls cuz of it. i mean Look at bowers a couple of years ago.
    The Chiefs have so many holes that you're going to give them a guy at a position where they don't have a hole? Makes sense. And no, I don't think they'll be able to get a QB as good as Geno in round 2. As poor as this QB class is, the position is too important to whiff on. I guarantee that at least 3 QBs go in the first round.

    Every year some athletic DT gets overrated in mock drafts leading up to the draft, and every year that guy ends up going in a more reasonable spot. Richardson is the same story if you ask me.

    Scheme versatility is nice, but actually being a first round talent is better. Not to mention the Dolphins are pretty set at DE. I doubt they're going to give up on Jared Odrick yet, a first round guy that has shown some good flashes, and Ansah certainly isn't better than Cameron Wake.

    Margus Hunt sucks. He makes Dontari Poe's college production look like he deserved a Heisman. Right now, he's an athletic special teams dynamo. Any team that takes a chance on him in round 1 is making a huge mistake.

    Jarvis Jones' situation is different than Bowers'. With Bowers, it was a knee condition that was new that draft medical evaluators discovered. Clemson's medical staff failed Bowers badly, and he paid for it. Jones already knows about his condition and has for years, it's one that won't go away but can be managed. I think it could hurt him to the point where he doesn't go #2 overall like projected, but I have a hard time seeing him fall outside of the top 15. Too many teams need pass rush help, and his college production should be very attractive for many teams.
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    So it's official.

    This jerk off is going to be the first QB taken in the first round (or maybe the first 5) in the modern era to throw less than 300 passes at DI level. and he might go #1 overall.


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    There's literally no way Jarvis Jones would make it past TT.

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    I like Dion Jordan, but I just don't see where he'd fit on our defense for a while. Smith and Brooks are entrenched at OLB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by delfinko View Post
    Oh sorry, I didn't realize that you were the end all, be all of QB scouting and mock drafts. Never mind me, I guess you've seen Foles play for the Eagles more then I have.

    I guess because you don't have a QB in the first round for the Chiefs or Jaguars you think that their quarterbacks are good enough? Even though KC will have a new regime, they will stick with Cassel and Quinn? And even though Gabbert has already proven to be completely average and Henne has washed out with another team, they're good enough to get another year. But Foles, who is playing with mostly 2nd and 3rd stringers, isn't good enough. Got it. You're probably right.

    And yes, I know there's going to be a blow up, as there should. If Foles continues to look better though, as he has pretty much every week, then there's no reason to not give him next year.
    i have the Chiefs taking a qb begining of round 2. Joeckel is twice the prospect of geno smith.

    as for the jags hennes made the offense better with his insertation into the lineup and our defense is trashy so this year atleast we should focus on that defense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ccugrad1 View Post
    I actually think this draft you could see some trades in the top-5 this year because the teams at the top right now (Kansas City, Jacksonville, Oakland, and Philadelphia), I don't think one draft choice helps them.

    If you look at Kansas City, they could take just about anyone at the top and it is going to fill some kind of need.
    i am hoping for a trade for the jags to get solid value back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bwallstreet View Post
    This is a bad post IMO....Jones condition is serious IMO theres some people that wont care about it at all...How does a team like the Jets pass on Jarvis Jones... I dont know that they can.

    Manti Te'o should no be an ILB he should be a MLB in a 4-3 hes 1000% percent made for it just like Luke Kuechly...best thing for him would be to go to a 4-3 team and I think one will snatch him up. Best case for him is Chicago making a coup and trading up for him to replace Urlacher win-win for both sides

    I think your rating Richardson too highly..10-20 range seems more fair

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    I dont understand how you so radically changed your board...did you not know teams liked athletic freaks on 12/1 did you not know those players like Hunt were freaks on 12/1 did you not know Jones had spinal stenosis on 12/1?

    It just doesnt make sense you blowing up your entire first round in 5 days when no new information is available.
    1) didnt know Jones condition
    2) i felt like making a completely changed mock draft with some supposed reaches at this time but i wont be shocked to see it happen.
    3) i would project trades but then people complain about the trades
    4) i might be overvaluing richardson a little but imo hes the Best UT in the draft(star and hankins are more NT than UT IMO). jags pass rush needs rush up the middle and richardson certainly can do that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iam brett favre View Post
    There's literally no way Jarvis Jones would make it past TT.
    lol i would say he would cuz hes got clay and perry

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    Quote Originally Posted by RedandGold_35 View Post
    I like Dion Jordan, but I just don't see where he'd fit on our defense for a while. Smith and Brooks are entrenched at OLB.
    do you really pass the upside of a guy like jordan just cuz u have brooks? imagine having 2 Ultra Athletic Pass rushers on the defense with aldon and dion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TDjacksonville View Post
    do you really pass the upside of a guy like jordan just cuz u have brooks? imagine having 2 Ultra Athletic Pass rushers on the defense with aldon and dion.
    We also have alot of key players coming up on contracts over the next two years, and Brooks just got a new deal. Brooks does alot for us on defense, what we do need is depth tho at the moment, so I like the position, but I don't believe we could part with Brooks for another two years without cap penalty I think, so Jordan would be a bit of a wasted pick.
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    I feel like Hankins is a pretty meh pick for the Saints. The type of DT we need is a 3 technique under tackle rather than a zero technique nose. And if Jarvis Jones is somehow available they're going to take him. Pass rush and defensive playmakers are needed by this team in a desperate way. Jarvis Jones makes things happen. If everything lined up the way you have it here, the Saints probably look for Jarvis Jones or Te'o before Hankins


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    also, CB Jonathan Banks went to Mississippi State, not Notre Dame.


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