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    Quote Originally Posted by Five Angels View Post
    Figures. These kinds of reports are exactly the type stuff that come out of teams' locker rooms that are lacking in both discipline and character. We've basically become the NFC version of the NY Jets, boys and girls.
    thats what I was thinking as well...as this season goes on the prospect of a new coach sounds better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by det32 View Post
    they all need to wake up...

    yall know me tho i dont by that someone said this
    wait just last week you said to me suh did nothing wrong now you saying they all need to wake up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blujaysrock View Post
    I still don't get it. Why call out your best player on D? Why not call out the secondary which allowed how many plays of over 20 and 40 yards against the Colts? Suh had 10 QB disruptions... our whole D line combined only had around 15 apparently and against the Texans Suh had 10 disruptions and rest of D line only had 11 (These from PFF).

    **** these team is just full of idiots. But I do find it unlikely someone would say this, but at least we know it wasn't Raiola
    here's my take on it suh was first because he has off the field drama and on field issues.
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    maybe I was a little ahead of the curve and now me and others on this site have something in common. I been saying what most of you are saying now after game 2. I would not be suprised if the person that said this was jeff backus or dominic raiola. because no one else has the balls to speak up also stafford and calvin are soft they dont seem like the type to speak up.

    Also as far as a new coach I want it to happen but I doubt if it does. But one thing I'll say about Jim is I think he a good coach that lacks the experience to have a disciplined team and he also has bad time management skills.
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    I don't agree with what happened here but i'm not surprised either.

    We are not performing to expectations. Usually, this is when "dirty laundry" get aired in the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingwood313 View Post
    maybe I was a little ahead of the curve and now me and others on this site have something in common. I been saying what most of you are saying now after game 2. I would not be suprised if the person that said this was jeff backus or dominic raiola. because no one else has the balls to speak up also stafford and calvin are soft they dont seem like the type to speak up.

    Also as far as a new coach I want it to happen but I doubt if it does. But one thing I'll say about Jim is I think he a good coach that lacks the experience to have a disciplined team and he also has bad time management skills.
    Dominic Raiola doesn't hesitate to speak his mind and has mocked that anonymous GM for hiding behind anonymity. Definitely not him.

    Probably Avril Even though he's the one laying face down as Luck goes past him... Still don't know why that guy is even here. Same as his sack-fumble. He could have recovered that but instead he starts celebrating. Guy clearly just wants his stats so he can get paid, which is sad.



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    I could see it being KVB. Frustrated over a poor season...thought he was going to be on a contending team now in the twilight of his career, only to see all of the talent around him to do it - but failing because of underwhelming effort and maturity. That's certainly a frustrating thing for such a veteran to witness. To watch young guys with all of the physical talent in the world, probably a lot of god given attributes he himself wishes he was given more of - and possibly sees it going to waste.

    Strikes me as a man who would man up and take credit for his words, though. And to not really use the media as a tool like that rather than going to the man straight up. But who knows what all has gone down behind closed doors this season. Could be turmoil in that locker room we don't know about.

    Either way...this kills the sense of team unity.


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    Quote Originally Posted by driz View Post
    I could see it being KVB. Frustrated over a poor season...thought he was going to be on a contending team now in the twilight of his career, only to see all of the talent around him to do it - but failing because of underwhelming effort and maturity. That's certainly a frustrating thing for such a veteran to witness. To watch young guys with all of the physical talent in the world, probably a lot of god given attributes he himself wishes he was given more of - and possibly sees it going to waste.

    Strikes me as a man who would man up and take credit for his words, though. And to not really use the media as a tool like that rather than going to the man straight up. But who knows what all has gone down behind closed doors this season. Could be turmoil in that locker room we don't know about.

    Either way...this kills the sense of team unity.
    I was trying to think who it would be. It would have to be someone who has been around a winning program and on the defense. KVB would have put his name to it imo. I'd say Corey williams maybe because he did experience some winning in Greenbay. Maybe Tulloch while in Tennessee. Maybe Rob Sims from his seattle days, I tend to think its a defensive player but it could be Sims because he is tired of the defense loosing when the offense is doing its job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garnotm View Post
    I was trying to think who it would be. It would have to be someone who has been around a winning program and on the defense. KVB would have put his name to it imo. I'd say Corey williams maybe because he did experience some winning in Greenbay. Maybe Tulloch while in Tennessee. Maybe Rob Sims from his seattle days, I tend to think its a defensive player but it could be Sims because he is tired of the defense loosing when the offense is doing its job.


    our problem is the O...

    more often then not our D is over preforming... our O is what is holding us back
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    Quote Originally Posted by det32 View Post


    our problem is the O...

    more often then not our D is over preforming... our O is what is holding us back
    our defense gives up the 8th most points per game in the NFL at 26.3. We have the 11th best offense getting 25 points per game and are 2nd in the NFL in offense yards per game with 416.

    Definitely can't say our offense is the problem... Our defense is near the bottom in turnovers and we have 0 def. TDs.

    All of our losses have been within 1 TD with the exception of the Vikings who beat us by 10.


    This team is mostly just lack of ability to close out games, our defense has failed to close them and our offense has failed to put them away. Can't really fault either side, just a combination of poor execution, some poor playing calling, and bad luck.



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    Quote Originally Posted by det32 View Post


    our problem is the O...

    more often then not our D is over preforming... our O is what is holding us back

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    Calvin Johnson is the worse decoy to ever put on football pads they should have drafted a big play reciever years ago. Golden Tate is a good side piece but I wouldnt have him as my full time number 1 WR.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blujaysrock View Post
    our defense gives up the 8th most points per game in the NFL at 26.3. We have the 11th best offense getting 25 points per game and are 2nd in the NFL in offense yards per game with 416.

    Definitely can't say our offense is the problem... Our defense is near the bottom in turnovers and we have 0 def. TDs.

    All of our losses have been within 1 TD with the exception of the Vikings who beat us by 10.


    This team is mostly just lack of ability to close out games, our defense has failed to close them and our offense has failed to put them away. Can't really fault either side, just a combination of poor execution, some poor playing calling, and bad luck.
    we give up alot of ST yards

    and we dont have near the talent on D that we do O

    our o is underperformed drastically
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    i'm sure it's KVB, and yes he should not have been anonymous, he'd get more respect.

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    Whoever it was shouldn't be on the team next year. Same with raolia, whose been running his mouth all season. If you ask me it's these people who are dividing the locker room, making excuses. It's our second biggest problem after scott linehan.

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