The Official 2012-2013 New York Yankees Offseason Thread III

[rrzubnyy]

Guy is out of his mind with the crippling salary BS.... If the team can afford it, its not a big deal just like the Yanks used to be like hence the insane amount of playoff appearances, WS titles, and revenue.

But they can't afford it.....as soon as the backloaded deals hit them they will be dealing those players away.....The Jays are a joke!

[LeoYankee]

More logic, gee leo have you gone mad??

I dont know what the Steins are doing but I am pretty mad about it. I am sure they will jack up ticket prices, I wont be going to another game until they start spending the cash that they rape from us.

I prefer TV. It's free and I have lots of snacks.

[nyyfan4life]

You are correct facts are facts and history does repeat itself, but I wouldnt take it as a guarantee they are going to be on the DL.

Nothing is a guarantee in sports. That's why you have to play the probabilities/possibilities. Given Reyes' past leg issues, it is probably that he misses some time down the road. It might not even have to be this year, just down the road.

[nyyfan4life]

But they can't afford it.....as soon as the backloaded deals hit them they will be dealing those players away.....The Jays are a joke!

The Jays are owned by Roger's Communications which is owned by the Rogers family which have a net worth of 6 Billion, at least... They can afford it if they can field an annual winner.

[nybigjg]

What's the point of looking at his career numbers? He wasn't even primarily a knuckle ball pitcher earlier in his career. His earlier statistics have no bearing on how good/effective he is now. A-Rod hit .270 last year with 18 HR yet his 'career' averages suggest a .300 BA and 42 HR's. Should we expect him to revert to his career numbers? No. That logic makes zero sense.

I predict RA's 2013 numbers to be around his career numbers, ie. a league average pitcher. The past few years were a fluke imo. He was basically a career minor leaguer.

[nyyfan4life]

I predict RA's 2013 numbers to be around his career numbers, ie. a league average pitcher. The past few years were a fluke imo. He was basically a career minor leaguer.

I predict your prediction will be wrong. There is no such thing as a 3-year fluke.

[LeoYankee]

I predict your prediction will be wrong. There is no such thing as a 3-year fluke.

Mark Sanchez? But I digress...

[LeoYankee]

Granderson, Baneulos, Mason Williams for Upton.

Shhh...

[nyyfan4life]

Mark Sanchez? But I digress...

Year 1: Trash
Year 2: Average (had an incredibly low INT%, most dropped INT's in the NFL)
Year 3: Average (32 total TD's but a lot of turnovers)
Year 4: Trash

I'm a Jets fan. Mark Sanchez has never really been good.

[LeoYankee]

Year 1: Trash
Year 2: Average (had an incredibly low INT%, most dropped INT's in the NFL)
Year 3: Average (32 total TD's but a lot of turnovers)
Year 4: Trash

I'm a Jets fan. Mark Sanchez has never really been good.

Yeah, he's ummmmm......not good.

[nybigjg]

I predict your prediction will be wrong. There is no such thing as a 3-year fluke.

So you're predicting another CY Young year from RA? I'll take that bet.

[TrueYankee]

Well this is right and wrong.
iIt’s wrong in thinking that adding pure speed guys to the lineup makes it more balanced. It does not. Having a complete lineup doesn’t mean having one that is pure power guys mixed with pure speed guys. It means having guys who cover all the tools individually. Look at the Cardinals lineup. they lose Albert Pujols and theyre still one of the best offenses in the NL. Why? Because they have guys who don’t just rely on one facet of the game. They have guys who can do a little bit of everything. If you have a lineup full of one dimensional guys, whether it be power or speed, you aren’t going to have a very balanced lineup. let’s say somehow they do end up signing bourne.

bourne-1 dimensional
jeter-a little bit of everything
cano-2 dimensional
Teixeira-1 dimensional
granderson-1 dimensional
ichiro-1 dimensional
gardner-1 dimensional
youkilis-1 dimensional

adding nothing but speed to the lineup doesn’t make you more balanced. it just makes you depend on something different.

I disagree with Youk being 1-dimensional. He will hit for average and some power. Cano is like Jeter, in which he can hit for everything as well. Tex/Grandy are wild cards. I would not be quick to call them 1-dimensional either. If they can adjust and hit for average again, they will make our lineup deeper in itself.

I guess we have to agree to disagree.

Word.

I'm one of the few that look at transactions from a business standpoint, cause I enjoy it.

Hence, the Arod deal, which is a huge overpay, obviously.......probably generated five times ROI for the business. Win.

Completely agree. The returns we get from a guy like A-rod is (was) probably huge. I also like to think from a business perspective. Well...I am a business major... lol

[nyyfan4life]

So you're predicting another CY Young year from RA? I'll take that bet.

Did I say that? I just predict that your prediction (him reverting to a league average pitcher) would be wrong.

[LeoYankee]

TY....u have to take that sig down. It's too damn sad and depressing.

[nybigjg]

Did I say that? I just predict that your prediction (him reverting to a league average pitcher) would be wrong.

If he's not league average then he should be in the good-great category which is CY Young consideration.