@paulpierce34 I told Wade I will **** his mom like how my man D. West did his mans. Thats why I got ejected
AIMelo=KillaDUO; Reason: Makes up stories to protect the one he beats his meat to everynight(Melo)
Chucky Woods; Reason: Packer Homer that just talks outta his Azz
HaruSoul; Reason: Sanchez homer can't see that he is a POS qb
Hustlenomics; Reason: Good luck debating with this Ronda homer
nickdymez; Reason: Kobe/Laker homer but didn't even know how the Lakers got Kobe
In a vacuum I agree with that, but there are several other factors. First of all, Denver has played the league's second hardest schedule (behind the Giants), New England has played the league's easiest schedule. Brady also has a far better supporting cast than Manning. Demaryius Thomas is a very good receiver, but after him they have Decker who's pretty mediocre, two cast off tight ends, a pulled out of retirement Brandon Stokley and a very mediocre running game. Brady has the two tight ends (who have missed time, but not at the same time), Welker, Lloyd, Edelman and Ridley who has emerged as a really good RB. He even has Woodhead who's a really dangerous receiving back.
Why are we using scheduling rankings from before the season began? The Broncos schedule is nearly a cake walk now. The AFC West is currently the only division in which combining all of their teams records together you end up with a losing record.
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Overall NE has more offensive talent certainly. I just don't know if it's that much that Peyton should throw INTs at over twice the rate. Brady's often found a way to keep the INTs low. He should be given props for that not. Instead we make excuses.
Stafford was the telling one for me. I should have left it at that.
I'm not at all saying awful season. I'm saying when the other stats are all so pretty close and you see something like that. It becomes telling even if it is one stat.
That all being said, I would not vote for Tom Brady for MVP as it stands. I may change my mind. I lean towards AP at this point with Peyton pretty close. I don't think Peyton is going to move for me though so AP has to drop off or Brady keep playing tremendous.
Last edited by Norm; 12-12-2012 at 03:49 PM.
it may just be me but ive never read a peyton manning thread that doesnt turn into a brady vs manning thread and same for tom brady threads
Y/A, yards, blah blah blah are such skewed stats because they don't intangibles and strategy into account.
one example: If you play in a dink and dunk O your y/a is going to be lower.
4% comp more in 500 passes = 20 more passes completed. Huge impact on a single game right?
What matters in Offensive yards are these two main things:
Time off the clock (like at the end of the game, 2 min O where you need a score etc.) a stat that isn't easily measured.
How many points it leads to. The job of your Offense is to ultimately score. The Pats O has 49 TD's 20 rushing TD's and 29 Passing TD's, the Broncos have 37 TD's 30 Passing TD's and 7 rushing TD's.
Rushing yards for the patrions are ~1800, and ~1300 for the broncos.
Looking at this you'll see that Brady's O uses their yards more EFFECTIVELY that Peyton.
Do you want to talk turnovers?
Brady hasn't lost a fumble.
Manning has lost two.
4 INT's for Brady.
10 INT's for manning.
12 Turnovers for Manning
4 Turnovers for Brady
As it is evidently clear Brady has not done the worst thing you can do for your team (turn the ball over) as much as Manning has. (not saying he is equal to turnover tony by any means) While leading his Offense (the job of a QB) to more points than Manning has.
Conclusively, Tom Brady has been the better QB of this season THUS FAR.
Albeit, I still think that AD is more VALUABLE to his team than any of these two.
The Brady's O has 12 more TD's than Peyton's O
Tom Brady has 8 less turnovers than Peyton.
Last edited by lolollort; 12-12-2012 at 05:01 PM.
Look!! You can see the exact moment his little heart breaks =)