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    I cant complain with the following:

    Revere
    Swisher
    Utley
    Howard
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    Young
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    Ruiz

    Then I assume we sign an SP or 2

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    I dont get why people still want to hit Ruiz 8th and Howard 4th. Boggles my mind

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    Well, I feel like were going to see some regression from Ruiz, and better play out of howard this year

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    Like Happ once Worley is gone the hype will fade and the guy will suck

    I am not a fan of this deal... I like who we got no doubt but why give up a prospect and a cost friendly starting pitcher for a cost friendly center fielder??? We have a large pct of our money put into pitching and just gave up the least expensive one....Just not understanding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexicano31 View Post
    I dont get why people still want to hit Ruiz 8th and Howard 4th. Boggles my mind
    um...where else would you bat howard? that's literally the only spot in the lineup he fits.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sexicano31 View Post
    Does the race of the players really matter?
    Unfortunately yes. Just like Asians are more likely to connect with an Asian player, so Caucasian fans will do the same. It doesn't matter anywhere but jersey sells.

    So does it matter? Yes. Does it matter much? No

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    Like Happ once Worley is gone the hype will fade and the guy will suck

    I am not a fan of this deal... I like who we got no doubt but why give up a prospect and a cost friendly starting pitcher for a cost friendly center fielder??? We have a large pct of our money put into pitching and just gave up the least expensive one....Just not understanding.
    I don't think you get revere any other way. He's a good player with a great contract. You give up more for those types.

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    Or 5th.

    Or 6th.

    Really, it hardly matters where he bats as long as Utley isn't immediately in front of him. Currently, I would bat Utley 2nd, Ruiz 3rd, and Howard 4th. If the Phillies were to add a guy like Swisher, then lineup construction gets difficult without moving Howard down.
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    Anyone who thinks Revere is a quality leadoff hitter is sadly mistaken, he is more of an 8-hole hitter at this point in his career. He doesnt walk and has a low OBP. The fact that he doesnt strike out is more suited for the 8-hole to me. People hate Jimmy Rollins as leadoff for not walking but he walked far more that Revere (62 compared to just 29) last season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Synyster89 View Post
    Anyone who thinks Revere is a quality leadoff hitter is sadly mistaken, he is more of an 8-hole hitter at this point in his career. He doesnt walk and has a low OBP. The fact that he doesnt strike out is more suited for the 8-hole to me. People hate Jimmy Rollins as leadoff for not walking but he walked far more that Revere (62 compared to just 29) last season.
    the 8 hole but not the 2 hole??? That sounds like a perfect 2 hole hitter to me

    Basically Polly with speed

    I would lead him off and bat rollins between utley/howard.

    Revere
    Utley
    Rollins
    Howard
    Chooch

    Or

    Revere
    Rollins
    Utley
    Chooch
    Howard

    Or

    Rollins
    Revere
    Utley
    Chooch
    Howard
    Last edited by More-Than-Most; 12-06-2012 at 02:52 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Synyster89 View Post
    Anyone who thinks Revere is a quality leadoff hitter is sadly mistaken, he is more of an 8-hole hitter at this point in his career. He doesnt walk and has a low OBP. The fact that he doesnt strike out is more suited for the 8-hole to me. People hate Jimmy Rollins as leadoff for not walking but he walked far more that Revere (62 compared to just 29) last season.
    And waste Revere's 40 SBs in the 8 hole? No thanks

    Plus, do we really need the "at this point in his career"? He's 24. Not 36

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    Quote Originally Posted by IBleedRed(duh) View Post
    And waste Revere's 40 SBs in the 8 hole? No thanks

    Plus, do we really need the "at this point in his career"? He's 24. Not 36
    Yeah really. What does "at this point in his career" even mean when you are 24?

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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    the 8 hole but not the 2 hole??? That sounds like a perfect 2 hole hitter to me

    Basically Polly with speed

    I would lead him off and bat rollins between utley/howard.

    Revere
    Utley
    Rollins
    Howard
    Chooch

    Or

    Revere
    Rollins
    Utley
    Chooch
    Howard

    Or

    Rollins
    Revere
    Utley
    Chooch
    Howard
    You want a slap hitting singles only player to bat 2nd? I'll pass. But I'd prefer him 2nd over leadoff...basically Im trying to make people aware that he is far from the ideal leadoff hitter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phillysports101 View Post
    Yeah really. What does "at this point in his career" even mean when you are 24?
    Wow you guys really arent all that intuitive are you? I meant that to say because he is a young player, "at this point in his career" he is not an ideal leadoff hitter. Whats wrong with that???
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    Quote Originally Posted by More-Than-Most View Post
    the 8 hole but not the 2 hole??? That sounds like a perfect 2 hole hitter to me

    Basically Polly with speed

    I would lead him off and bat rollins between utley/howard.

    Revere
    Utley
    Rollins
    Howard
    Chooch

    Or

    Revere
    Rollins
    Utley
    Chooch
    Howard

    Or

    Rollins
    Revere
    Utley
    Chooch
    Howard
    I don't trust Rollins in the 3 hole. Phil's have tried that experiment and it didn't work. We need to see what Chooch is without the Aderall. So these could be options, but with a lot of questions marks.

    Assuming Phil's get Young:

    1. Revere
    2. Rollins
    3. Utley
    4. Young
    5. Howard
    6. Chooch
    7. Ruff
    8. Brown
    9. Pitcher

    I don't LOVE this. Not sure Young is best there. But I'm not sure which Chooch the Phil's are getting back

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