Cashman came to winter meetings without the authority to make offers

[infernoscurse]

that we know of, im not going to cry cause we didnt offer chavez a contract, keppinger? anyone. I wouldnt be offering anyone a contract, id be sticking my ,middle finger to all the whinny fans and just played the guys in AAA to see what we have with them and then see how i can fit future better FA into my payroll until 2015

[Pinstripe power]

ok guys, here's the deal. take up a collection to pay for the moeny the steinbrenners are saving by getitng under $189. otherwise stop *****ing how they spend their money, considering theya re still pumping almost 200 mil into the pay roll.

[LeoYankee]

I am no longer angry but will be if Josh goes to Boston.

[rrzubnyy]

Uhm....wait...



WOW

Good for Brian! Now start plugging these fckn holes with talent, whether it is old or not...

Get Ichy signed as well.....and then trade Hughes, Nova, Cano to the Giants for Buster Posey....Call up Adams and sign 2 free agent starters and call it a day......

Actually just kidding with the trade but damn, fill these holes.......

[TrueYankee]

that we know of, im not going to cry cause we didnt offer chavez a contract, keppinger? anyone. I wouldnt be offering anyone a contract, id be sticking my ,middle finger to all the whinny fans and just played the guys in AAA to see what we have with them and then see how i can fit future better FA into my payroll until 2015

I'm not arguing that. Just pointing out how the article has truth to it. I would also like to see what we have in the minors and see what they're able to do in the ML level.

[TrueYankee]

Good for Brian! Now start plugging these fckn holes with talent, whether it is old or not...

Get Ichy signed as well.....and then trade Hughes, Nova, Cano to the Giants for Buster Posey....

Lol.

[DerekJeterDan]

Even though the Yankees missed out on Nate Schierholtz, they have Chris Dickerson.
They failed to bring in Jeff Keppinger? They have David Adams, Jayson Nix, and Eduardo Nunez.
The Yankees will be fine. The names we failed to bring in aren't superstars.
Losing Martin and Chavez hurts but Martin is easily replaceable and the Yankees are talking to Youk.

[bfrap]

I have to laugh (hysterically) at the majority of you fools. So the yanks are going to cut ~15 million from payroll by 2014. So what, that won't end the world or mean that the Yanks won't be competitive.

In case you have forgotten, the Giants have won 2 of the last 3 world series... With payrolls of less than 100 million in '10 and less than 120 million this year. The Yankees have had the highest payroll of all 30 MLB teams for years, and have only won the WS once.

The problem is, Since the Juice is being taken out of the game, by the time most UFA's hit the market, their top years are almost totally gone. Any years on a contract past 35 are insane now, where while the players were juicing it was common for players to play well into their 40's.

The Yanks are trying to correct issues that have been building for years. It will take time, but I don't see any last place finishes (see Boston 2012) in their future getting there.

Let's face it, outside of Hamilton and Grienke I don't see any really good high priced talent. Nothing to get excited about. Yes, we lost out, but it's not like we lost a battle... Hell, the NYY never made the players an offer meaning the Yanks NEVER ENTERED the battle.

So be patient. It's not like we can field an all star team every season. Hell, many of you were saying Martin was a scourge only a few weeks ago are now complaining the loudest that the Yanks failed to retain him. Seems to me, that if it weren't for complaining, you would have absolutely nothing to post.

[johnnyi]

I have to laugh (hysterically) at the majority of you fools. So the yanks are going to cut ~15 million from payroll by 2014. So what, that won't end the world or mean that the Yanks won't be competitive.

In case you have forgotten, the Giants have won 2 of the last 3 world series... With payrolls of less than 100 million in '10 and less than 120 million this year. The Yankees have had the highest payroll of all 30 MLB teams for years, and have only won the WS once.

The problem is, Since the Juice is being taken out of the game, by the time most UFA's hit the market, their top years are almost totally gone. Any years on a contract past 35 are insane now, where while the players were juicing it was common for players to play well into their 40's.

The Yanks are trying to correct issues that have been building for years. It will take time, but I don't see any last place finishes (see Boston 2012) in their future getting there.

Let's face it, outside of Hamilton and Grienke I don't see any really good high priced talent. Nothing to get excited about. Yes, we lost out, but it's not like we lost a battle... Hell, the NYY never made the players an offer meaning the Yanks NEVER ENTERED the battle.

So be patient. It's not like we can field an all star team every season. Hell, many of you were saying Martin was a scourge only a few weeks ago are now complaining the loudest that the Yanks failed to retain him. Seems to me, that if it weren't for complaining, you would have absolutely nothing to post.

Agreed

[NYY09]

I have to laugh (hysterically) at the majority of you fools. So the yanks are going to cut ~15 million from payroll by 2014. So what, that won't end the world or mean that the Yanks won't be competitive.

In case you have forgotten, the Giants have won 2 of the last 3 world series... With payrolls of less than 100 million in '10 and less than 120 million this year. The Yankees have had the highest payroll of all 30 MLB teams for years, and have only won the WS once.

The problem is, Since the Juice is being taken out of the game, by the time most UFA's hit the market, their top years are almost totally gone. Any years on a contract past 35 are insane now, where while the players were juicing it was common for players to play well into their 40's.

The Yanks are trying to correct issues that have been building for years. It will take time, but I don't see any last place finishes (see Boston 2012) in their future getting there.

Let's face it, outside of Hamilton and Grienke I don't see any really good high priced talent. Nothing to get excited about. Yes, we lost out, but it's not like we lost a battle... Hell, the NYY never made the players an offer meaning the Yanks NEVER ENTERED the battle.

So be patient. It's not like we can field an all star team every season. Hell, many of you were saying Martin was a scourge only a few weeks ago are now complaining the loudest that the Yanks failed to retain him. Seems to me, that if it weren't for complaining, you would have absolutely nothing to post.

How long of a break did you have to take from the hysterical laughter to type all that?

Maybe the fans are annoyed because from the outside looking in there seems to be a lack of any sort of plan. Seems like all reactionary moves without much, if any, forward vision.

Ok, you dont resign Martin for a couple of mill? no prob, budgets and whatnot, we get it, sorta, but then they're ok with droppin 12mill on Youk? Its comical.

Just sayin it would be nice to feel like they have a plan every now and then...

[Pinstripe power]

How long of a break did you have to take from the hysterical laughter to type all that?

Maybe the fans are annoyed because from the outside looking in there seems to be a lack of any sort of plan. Seems like all reactionary moves without much, if any, forward vision.

Ok, you dont resign Martin for a couple of mill? no prob, budgets and whatnot, we get it, sorta, but then they're ok with droppin 12mill on Youk? Its comical.

Just sayin it would be nice to feel like they have a plan every now and then...

because our options ineternally at 3rd arent as good. martin was mostly abysmal last year, i have a hard time thinking romine could be much worse and he makes significntly less. nunez on the other hand, blows

[jd25213]

Not true...He just offered Youkilis a 1 year deal worth $12 million.

Uhm....wait...

On Thursday, people within the Yankees organization confirmed that this was in fact true: Cashman arrived in Nashville unable to make offers to players, and without that power, targets like Jeff Keppinger and Eric Chavez took deals elsewhere.

The Yankee general manager went back to ownership and made his case, and Cashman was allowed to move forward with offers – the Yankees made a one-year, $12 million offer to third baseman Kevin Youkilis Thursday morning.

WOW

I read that the Yankees made a two year, $10 million dollar offer to Keppinger.

[NYY09]

because our options ineternally at 3rd arent as good. martin was mostly abysmal last year, i have a hard time thinking romine could be much worse and he makes significntly less. nunez on the other hand, blows

By aren't as good you actually mean we have none right?

I know what you're saying but I think you might be under-valuing what Martin brought to the table just a bit. Or maybe I just got too used to watching Posada's "catching" for too long...

[ohbilly2134]

"Yankeesource ‏@YankeeSource

I'm starting to think Brian Cashman doesn't even attend next offseason's winter meetings. He'll stay home and watch reruns of Yankeeography."

[Pinstripe power]

By aren't as good you actually mean we have none right?

I know what you're saying but I think you might be under-valuing what Martin brought to the table just a bit. Or maybe I just got too used to watching Posada's "catching" for too long...

yes, 3rd base is a hole. we have options at catcher, that its ahr dto beleive can be worse than martin