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    why casey should be fired

    He was brought in for defense, yet this team is one of the worst offensive and DEFENSIVE teams in the nba. His rotations suck, and this team is losing to even garbage teams like charolette, detriot and now even sacremento
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    I'm giving Casey another month to steer the ship, but if the same crap is going on, there needs to be hell to pay -- and that means blowing up this team and starting fresh -- and building around lowry, derozan, jval, ross and davis. Get rid of Caledron now and get something...anything back in return. Same with Bargs.

    Bargs is really the culprit...he's expected to lead the team and he can't. he's one of the worst on defense and he's way too inconsistent offensively -- you can't revolve your team around a guy like this -- he sucks the life of the game and the fun...he really does...

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    im not putting full responsibility on bargs. casey continues to fail to make use of bargs by getting him the ball where he can be effective. when he came in for the 4th quarter his job was litterally to stand at the 3 point line and space the floor. he was used as an anchor to hold a defender out of the paint. theres a long list of guys that can do that for much cheaper and have a bigger impact on the defensive end. the only difference is that bargs has a reputation that he can score so hes aloud to jack up what ever garbage he wants if the ball hits his hands with no reprocussions

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    do you guys think its easy to fire casey? who replaces him? will it be easy to trade bargs? who would take him if he's "so crap". he needs to play through it to gain ANY value around the league, and maybe the players on this team just arent good enough to play casey's system of D.

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    He would do well to manage his timeouts/rotations better.

    Doesn't deserve to be fired though.

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    depends how the season ends. if we're a bottom 3 team then i can see the FO cleaning house. But if we end up like a 30 win team then i can see Casey getting 1 more year


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    Fire BC first, then let the new GM figure it out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tmath View Post
    Fire BC first, then let the new GM figure it out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Saddler The Gr8 View Post
    depends how the season ends. if we're a bottom 3 team then i can see the FO cleaning house. But if we end up like a 30 win team then i can see Casey getting 1 more year
    This. I still think at some point this team is going to figure it out and we will start winning games. Unless this doesn't happen and we end up staying the second worst team in the league, I think Casey deserves one more year. Last year he really didn't have any expectations. This is the first time hes really expected to show us results so I think it warrants a larger sample size before he is fired for sure

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    Quote Originally Posted by jsumadchat View Post
    do you guys think its easy to fire casey? who replaces him? will it be easy to trade bargs? who would take him if he's "so crap". he needs to play through it to gain ANY value around the league, and maybe the players on this team just arent good enough to play casey's system of D.
    What's there to replace?

    He seems like a great assistant but not HC material just as some great co-ordinators in the NFL are not HC material.

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    Next game Davis needs to start. Once Casey makes Andrea come off the Bench I'll say he's finally on the right path. Also Andrea usually has good 1st halves then suck in the 2nd. I think fatigue might have some play in that. This is one of the other reasons why I think he should come off the bench or at least not average so much mins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BALLER R View Post
    Next game Davis needs to start. Once Casey makes Andrea come off the Bench I'll say he's finally on the right path. Also Andrea usually has good 1st halves then suck in the 2nd. I think fatigue might have some play in that. This is one of the other reasons why I think he should come off the bench or at least not average so much mins.
    I agree. Even if its just for one game I think itl help Bargs get back on track a bit

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    it is easy to call for casey's head but i don't think the lack of results is his fault. he is a hardworking tactical coach (like a chess player) that needs predictability and half court steady paced game in order to succeed.

    what changed in raptors land from last year? well the biggest thing that changes is the starter pg. last year the team player defense decently at times with calderon as pg. this year with lawry running the team it seems worse.

    the main reason for the struggle is the fact that lowry does not have a structured way of running the offense. he improvises (creates) a lot and this confuses his teammates. sometimes he attack early in the clock and this results in a lot of transition defense situations where the raptors struggles big time.

    lowry is the type of player with an amazing set of skills that puts up big numbers but doesn't seem to be able to make his team better. iverson was the perfect example of this curse. despite his impressive skills set lowry is not good at running a structured offense. when her runs the offense the way he knows the team doesn't do much better but at least he puts up very good numbers. don't forget that despite his skills set he was already let go by two other NBA teams. so i think he hardly is the savior we expect.

    at the beginning of the season casey seemed to know what he wants from lowry. as the loses started to pile up casey tried to adjust the tactics first but he kept the rotation mainly the same. he tried to pair lowry with calderon that was implementing better casey's tactics, but this didn't pay off because lowry is equally ineffective off the ball. being unable to fix the problem casey now seems to be out of ideas and the inconsistent and illogical (at times) rotations prove that.

    but again is not casey's fault that this happens. the main culprit is colangelo. he left casey with two stars that cannot coexist. bargs and lowry will never be effective in the same time. last year when bargs had his best time as a raptors he was the beneficiary of the structured offense that allowed him tho know where needs to be and what needs to do. but the type of offense that made bargs better will make lowry useless. with lowry running the plays bargs looks worse than he actually is. the only option casey has is to bench one of the two which will make colangelo look bad.

    colangelo put the team together and my solution is to let colangelo go and let casey run the team the way he feels rather than imposing on him rotations with bargs and lowry.

    bargs needs to be benched. his moral is very low because of the years of loosing. he needs to be traded for its own good but i will not be surprised if bargs becomes a star in a different team.
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    Quote Originally Posted by the life View Post
    it is easy to call for casey's head but i don't think the lack of results is his fault. he is a hardworking tactical coach (like a chess player) that needs predictability and half court steady paced game in order to succeed.

    what changed in raptors land from last year? well the biggest thing that changes is the starter pg. last year the team player defense decently at times with calderon as pg. this year with lawry running the team it seems worse.

    the main reason for the struggle is the fact that lowry does not have a structured way of running the offense. he improvises (creates) a lot and this confuses his teammates. sometimes he attack early in the clock and this results in a lot of transition defense situations where the raptors struggles big time.

    lowry is the type of player with an amazing set of skills that puts up big numbers but doesn't seem to be able to make his team better. iverson was the perfect example of this curse. despite his impressive skills set lowry is not good at running a structured offense. when her runs the offense the way he knows the team doesn't do much better but at least he puts up very good numbers. don't forget that despite his skills set he was already let go by two other NBA teams. so i think he hardly is the savior we expect.

    at the beginning of the season casey seemed to know what he wants from lowry. as the loses started to pile up casey tried to adjust the tactics first but he kept the rotation mainly the same. he tried to pair lowry with calderon that was implementing better casey's tactics, but this didn't pay off because lowry is equally ineffective off the ball. being unable to fix the problem casey now seems to be out of ideas and the inconsistent and illogical (at times) rotations prove that.

    but again is not casey's fault that this happens. the main culprit is colangelo. he left casey with two stars that cannot coexist. bargs and lowry will never be effective in the same time. last year when bargs had his best time as a raptors he was the beneficiary of the structured offense that allowed him tho know where needs to be and what needs to do. but the type of offense that made bargs better will make lowry useless. with lowry running the plays bargs looks worse than he actually is. the only option casey has is to bench one of the two which will make colangelo look bad.

    colangelo put the team together and my solution is to let colangelo go and let casey run the team the way he feels rather than imposing on him rotations with bargs and lowry.

    bargs needs to be benched. his moral is very low because of the years of loosing. he needs to be traded for its own good but i will not be surprised if bargs becomes a star in a different team.
    This is a very good point. The play style of Lowry does seem to clash with Bargs' style now that I think about it. That never even occurred to me before.

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    Fire Casey, he is an idiot, he should not be a head coach.....Jonas 15 mins , are u kidding me, we are basically the same team as last year, get ready to lose a lot until Casey is fired.
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