Bret Jackson overhauls swing

[SenorGato]

I don't imagine anyone believes Jackson can put up .250/.350/.450. If there's a FO that thinks it, please try to turn that into something worthwhile (even if it's a package).

.230/.310/.400? MAYBE if this overhaul goes well.

[KyleJRM]

"can" is such a broad term. Sure, I think he can put up an .800 OPS. That scrawny strikeout king we got for George Bell hit 66 home runs. Anything can happen.

[SenorGato]

"can" is such a broad term. Sure, I think he can put up an .800 OPS. That scrawny strikeout king we got for George Bell hit 66 home runs. Anything can happen.

Very true. In a given year if things go well? Why not. Regular basis? Nope.

[Buckcub]

Spring training will be more important for BJax than any other Cub that I can recall. If he shows significant improvement, then I think he HAS to get a shot with player development being the point of the season. If he struggles a lot, then we should showcase trade options to maximize their value.

I, for one, will wait until spring training to opine definitively.

[Rynoplasty]

I don't imagine anyone believes Jackson can put up .250/.350/.450. If there's a FO that thinks it, please try to turn that into something worthwhile (even if it's a package).

.230/.310/.400? MAYBE if this overhaul goes well.

I wouldn't assume NOBODY thinks he can do that. Bill James has him projected for .242/.328/.430 next year, and predicting what players can do is basically his raison d'être.

[GatorJimmy]

I don't imagine anyone believes Jackson can put up .250/.350/.450. If there's a FO that thinks it, please try to turn that into something worthwhile (even if it's a package).

.230/.310/.400? MAYBE if this overhaul goes well.

I without a doubt believe if he was out opening day starter and went injury free he could put up those numbers along with 20 hrs and 20 sb.

[KyleJRM]

I wouldn't assume NOBODY thinks he can do that. Bill James has him projected for .242/.328/.430 next year, and predicting what players can do is basically his raison d'être.

Bill James' projections are still scaled to the high-offense era. He's high on pretty much every player's projection by a noticeable amount.

[TranZella]

I still think the best way to fix Jackson's swing is to send him to KC along with Garza, for Wil Myers.

[windycityD]

I don't imagine anyone believes Jackson can put up .250/.350/.450. If there's a FO that thinks it, please try to turn that into something worthwhile (even if it's a package).

.230/.310/.400? MAYBE if this overhaul goes well.

Literally every evaluation of Jackson says the same thing: if the Ks and K rate does not go down, he's either a 4/5th OF at this level, based primarily on his athleticism-speed, or a career AAA player. Once again...Patterson, Pie, and Jackson were ALL part of an organizational "philosophy" in CF that was more on the speed & power potential combo than an actual plate discipline/ approach. You reap what you sew. Jackson could still turn this around and 20 HR potential in CF at this level on the cheap is not exactly a bad commodity to develop more. Sure, if Colorado wants to give us something legitimate back for him, sure, make a deal.

[Rynoplasty]

Literally every evaluation of Jackson says the same thing: if the Ks and K rate does not go down, he's either a 4/5th OF at this level, based primarily on his athleticism-speed, or a career AAA player. Once again...Patterson, Pie, and Jackson were ALL part of an organizational "philosophy" in CF that was more on the speed & power potential combo than an actual plate discipline/ approach. You reap what you sew. Jackson could still turn this around and 20 HR potential in CF at this level on the cheap is not exactly a bad commodity to develop more. Sure, if Colorado wants to give us something legitimate back for him, sure, make a deal.

I don't follow the Patterson/Pie comparison. Before last season, discipline and approach were never a problem for Jackson. They were a strength, if anything, allowing him to compensate for a long, loopy swing.

[windycityD]

I don't follow the Patterson/Pie comparison. Before last season, discipline and approach were never a problem for Jackson. They were a strength, if anything, allowing him to compensate for a long, loopy swing.

Ks have always been an issue with him. And if you're talking open, even somewhat loopy swings...Patterson & Pie both had variations on that theme. My main point is that in a ten year draft, then development span, we've had 3 CFs who have all had issues at the plate, w/ Ks in particular. I'm not saying Jackson can't augment or semi-correct this downside to his game, he very well could. What I am saying is that if a team like the Rockies were to flip Fowler for pitching, we have a potential trade partner for Jackson.

[JBears79]

Spring training will be more important for BJax than any other Cub that I can recall. If he shows significant improvement, then I think he HAS to get a shot with player development being the point of the season. If he struggles a lot, then we should showcase trade options to maximize their value.

I, for one, will wait until spring training to opine definitively.

Last year Jackson was pretty hot in ST, I think he hit like 5-6 HR's in like 2 weeks. ST really isn't a definitive answer but lets us see whether he improved his swing at all and if he developed it.

[Rynoplasty]

Ks have always been an issue with him. And if you're talking open, even somewhat loopy swings...Patterson & Pie both had variations on that theme. My main point is that in a ten year draft, then development span, we've had 3 CFs who have all had issues at the plate, w/ Ks in particular. I'm not saying Jackson can't augment or semi-correct this downside to his game, he very well could. What I am saying is that if a team like the Rockies were to flip Fowler for pitching, we have a potential trade partner for Jackson.

Having a high K% isn't automatically an approach/discipline problem.

Patterson has a career BB% below 5% and Pie is just a bit better at 6.5%. Jackson is like three times as patient as those guys. He managed 15.5% even in the majors last year while he was striking out 40% of the time. Being patient and having a good approach has never been the issue with him. It's all mechanics.

[KyleJRM]

Patterson and Pie don't really belong together as comps, either. One had a much better hit tool.

[Rynoplasty]

Plus what the hell kind of name is Pie, anyway?