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    Jeff Wilpon: Payroll to increase in 2014

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    Jeff Wilpon says firmly: "The payroll is going to go up next year" and talks about "flexibility" after contracts come off books in 2014

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    Jeff Wilpon: Payroll to increase in 2014

    Yeah they will spend 60 million in the off season.

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    Someone had tweeted that Wright asked hard questions about the team's economics... good sign for future spending that he decided to stay

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    We'll see how they spend the money and who they spend the money on, but good news in my opinion.

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    Ahhh.. why not spend a little in 2013? Big statement means little today!
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-rock-man View Post
    Ahhh.. why not spend a little in 2013? Big statement means little today!
    Because in 2013 they'll say that 2015 is the year we spend big. Then 2016 is the year we will be ready to compete...then 2017. Then 2021.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nymetsrule View Post
    Because in 2013 they'll say that 2015 is the year we spend big. Then 2016 is the year we will be ready to compete...then 2017. Then 2021.
    No, they will probably start taking steps to improve things a little in 2014. Since the only significant salary coming off the books now is Santana, Jeff's excuse is nonsense. They haven't had to pay any penalty in the Madoff case yet. They're pretty deep in the black when you combine the Mets and SNY. They could spend now. But what do you expect? Fred and Jeff always lie.

    The real reason they'll spend is phase 1 of the Willets Point plan, which includes substantial retail space, is supposed to open in 2016:

    http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/111009993

    So expect a bit of spending in 2014. 2015 might well be like 2005 with some big signings. The point of it all is to drive traffic to the mall. These guys are not Mets fans. They get a kick out of playing Mets fans for chumps.

    Because they still don't spend on prospects and the draft, expect the same sort of teams as 5 years ago - teams good enough for "meaningful baseball in September" but no better. Most likely not very good teams top heavy with a few prime free agents, and bad depth.

    In short I expect teams where many of the important parts will be slapped together over a short period to lure fans there to spend money, but too flawed to win championships. We've seen it before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coupon View Post
    No, they will probably start taking steps to improve things a little in 2014. Since the only significant salary coming off the books now is Santana, Jeff's excuse is nonsense. They haven't had to pay any penalty in the Madoff case yet. They're pretty deep in the black when you combine the Mets and SNY. They could spend now. But what do you expect? Fred and Jeff always lie.

    The real reason they'll spend is phase 1 of the Willets Point plan, which includes substantial retail space, is supposed to open in 2016:

    http://www.crainsnewyork.com/article...TATE/111009993

    So expect a bit of spending in 2014. 2015 might well be like 2005 with some big signings. The point of it all is to drive traffic to the mall. These guys are not Mets fans. They get a kick out of playing Mets fans for chumps.

    Because they still don't spend on prospects and the draft, expect the same sort of teams as 5 years ago - teams good enough for "meaningful baseball in September" but no better. Most likely not very good teams top heavy with a few prime free agents, and bad depth.

    In short I expect teams where many of the important parts will be slapped together over a short period to lure fans there to spend money, but too flawed to win championships. We've seen it before.
    Do you ever get tired of smearing (couldn't think of a better word) the Wilpons and just want to talk about baseball? Just curious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by clayamtion View Post
    Do you ever get tired of smearing (couldn't think of a better word) the Wilpons and just want to talk about baseball? Just curious.
    Sorry you can't think of a better word to describe my posts about the Wilpons. This should help.

    http://thesaurus.com/

    I'm accurate describing past actions and using them to predict future actions. Maybe the word analyzing? Or explaining?

    I talk about baseball when appropriate. The central problem with the Mets - the elephant in the room you're phobic about addressing - is the Wilpons don't care about winning, they only care about how much they can milk out of the team.

    You seem to be happy contemplating the Mets signing a .200/200 (avg./strikeout) guy like Mark Reynolds who can barely play 3rd base and converting him into an outfielder. I can't happily discuss this. I realize the Mets generate enough money to acquire credible pieces for a true winner, but it won't happen because the Wilpons are bleeding the team like leeches.

    Finally, this thread isn't about what you seem to define as "baseball" (scrub acquisition). It's about ownership and spending. It's unfortunate some fans can't or won't acknowledge the central problem and have difficulty with other fans doing it.

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    Hmmm.......where have I heard this before?

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    Quote Originally Posted by The-rock-man View Post
    Ahhh.. why not spend a little in 2013? Big statement means little today!
    If the Wilpons are serious...it makes sense to push for 2014 anyway.

    There will be better FAs in 2014 and by then Wheeler and Harvey should both be in the rotation.

    I don't really trust the Wilpons, but if they are being honest here, it makes perfect sense in every way possible to go for it big in 2014.
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    noah is gonna be a beast man.

    with him and harvey, its like were gonna have Goku and Vegetta in the same rotation

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    Im not disagreeing..

    Quote Originally Posted by Wrigheyes4MVP View Post
    If the Wilpons are serious...it makes sense to push for 2014 anyway.

    There will be better FAs in 2014 and by then Wheeler and Harvey should both be in the rotation.

    I don't really trust the Wilpons, but if they are being honest here, it makes perfect sense in every way possible to go for it big in 2014.
    But I believe it makes good sense to lay the foundation for the 2014 season which should mean; make trades and sign the right affordable players to make us competitive. Imagine five good starters without a competent bullpen to close. Imagine Baxter, Duda, and Captain K playing a full season and setting the major league mark in strikeouts and least rbi's. Yes 2014 is looking like we're gonna be a good team, but the foundation should be started in 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The-rock-man View Post
    But I believe it makes good sense to lay the foundation for the 2014 season which should mean; make trades and sign the right affordable players to make us competitive. Imagine five good starters without a competent bullpen to close. Imagine Baxter, Duda, and Captain K playing a full season and setting the major league mark in strikeouts and least rbi's. Yes 2014 is looking like we're gonna be a good team, but the foundation should be started in 2013.
    How is 2014 looking like a good year? Aside from starting pitching, the offense is the same with no impact players moving up the system, the bullpen is the same and theres no certainty that they'll pick up ellsbury or any other big free agent.

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    Yaaaa.... guys don't get too excited, its the Wilpons talking here. I'll believe it when I see it.

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    He didn't say by how much or what percentage, so even if they spend $1 more in 2014 than 2013...payroll would indeed have gone up...

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