If he was linked to a draft pick his FA stock would diminish significantly, almost forcing him to accept it.
Victorino is a better player than Ross, in my opinion, and at the same average salary, I would take Victorino, even though he does require 3 more years.
What was you alternative?I didn't want Hamilton or Victorino. Both are stupid deals.
I would like to actually commit to a rebuild and give Kalish a real opportunity for once. He's finally healthy, and if we want him to have a future here, he needs to be able to prove himself. This is his first time healthy since he played around 50 games at 22 years old and put up a .710 OPS, which isn't great, but it beats Victorino's OPS last season. Give the kid a chance, don't spend money just to spend money.
Victorino was at least a relief that we didn't sign Hamilton, because it means they're committing to retooling. They may not be rebuilding like I would like, but at least they aren't actually trying to compete next year, and aren't completely sacrificing the future to appease the pink hats, even though that's basically what this move was. Spending money to be marginally better, but nowhere good enough, to save face.
Retooling in the short term to be ~.500 or above, rebuilding for the long term is the clear plan.Victorino was at least a relief that we didn't sign Hamilton, because it means they're committing to retooling. They may not be rebuilding like I would like, but at least they aren't actually trying to compete next year, and aren't completely sacrificing the future to appease the pink hats, even though that's basically what this move was. Spending money to be marginally better, but nowhere good enough, to save face.
There are no young super stud FA's this year. There are no super stud kids available in trade either unless you commit to rebuild now, which I wouldn't mind, but RSN would probably appreciate a decent try in '13 until the trade deadline. Guys like Lester, Buchholz, Gomes, Dempster, etc. could have good value this summer and next summer as well, and really help jump start the rebuild. I fully expect to see this if we are under water at those times of trade deadline/waivers.
You also left out that Ellsbury is easier to deal if the offer is good enough. We don't have another credible CF in house. JBJ won't be ready until perhaps mid '14. The rest of the guys we have are too young, or can field and not hit, and Kalish is under enough strain in a corner OF slot vs RHP. Throwing him in CF as a starter w/o a net seems to be asking too much initially.
How wrong we were. Not counting his performance tonight vs the Dodgers, Fangraphs has him at 4.0 WAR and he's been worth $19.9M thus far this season. Safe to say that if he stays relatively healthy the next 2 seasons he'll easily earn exceed his contract. His defense in RF has been ridiculous as well.
I completely hated the deal. Glad I was wrong.
Bring back MacDime
Victorino now at 4.3 fWAR, tied with Pedroia for team leader. FG$ has him valued at $21.5M so far this year.
This topic got me interested in seeing how our offseason investments have paid off so far:
Player Contract fWAR FG$ (Value) Victorino $13M 4.3 $21.5M Napoli $5M (Incentives can push to $13M) 2.2 $11.1M Drew $9.5M 2.2 $10.8M Gomes $5M 0.6 $2.8M Ross $3.1M 0.5 $2.3M Dempster $13.2M 1.2 $6.0M Koji $4.2M 2.3 $11.6M
Me too!Originally Posted by bagwell368:26952661
lol, small kid got tripped by a tuba player
I feel like gomes has been a bit more valuable than statistics would show. Is that just me?