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  1. #181
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    I'd rather try to get a SS for Ellbury + Specs than a SP.
    Perfection.

  2. #182
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    Quote Originally Posted by TragicallyHip View Post
    I'd rather try to get a SS for Ellbury + Specs than a SP.
    As long as the player is good,doesn't matter what position, i'll be happy.

    "Elite" is just another way to spell "Brad Marchand"

  3. #183
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    Only problem I see with hanging onto Ellsbury and hopefully trading him at the deadline, is will LL and upper management allow it? The hope is that he is playing well and increases his value, but what will that look like to the "fans" if they ship off a productive player at the deadline and we have to deal with all the buyer/seller, contender/pretender crap at the deadline. I just cant see LL giving that move the OK.

  4. #184
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteWesWelker View Post
    Only problem I see with hanging onto Ellsbury and hopefully trading him at the deadline, is will LL and upper management allow it? The hope is that he is playing well and increases his value, but what will that look like to the "fans" if they ship off a productive player at the deadline and we have to deal with all the buyer/seller, contender/pretender crap at the deadline. I just cant see LL giving that move the OK.
    It'll look fine if we deal him at the deadline if we are not in it (for specs). If we are in it, but need a RP and some kid, then we do that.

    But even pink hates know Ells is going to FA, so we could always sign him back (and then claim his price is insane - oh sorry).
    I am not a con artist! I am a businessman! I have a big brain and I'm good at making deals! People are just jealous of my BIG BRAIN! BAD!

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  5. #185
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    Should of traded ellsbury right after the 2011 season. We could of got the world for him...

  6. #186
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    Yeah..I think Ben was on a tight, if not non-existant, leash last off-season. Lucchino probably thought the rot wasnt as deep as it was and wanted to keep his one MVP type player from the year before. I understand why we didn't move him. If we were Oakland or Arizona there is no way he would have been here last season.

  7. #187
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    Quote Originally Posted by Redsox19 View Post
    Should of traded ellsbury right after the 2011 season. We could of got the world for him...
    a lot easier to say now after looking back on it.....

    "Elite" is just another way to spell "Brad Marchand"

  8. #188
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    Bit of a surprise move here IMO. 13 million for 3 years is way to much for this guy.
    With the deepest of regrets I am announcing that I will be leaving Pro Sports Daily. No reason in particular but wanted to thank everyone for a great 6 years here. Lots of great discussion and good poll series as well. Also fun re-drafts. Best of luck to you all in the future.

  9. #189
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    Quote Originally Posted by todu82 View Post
    Bit of a surprise move here IMO. 13 million for 3 years is way to much for this guy.
    Well according to fangraphs over the past six years, that opinion is false:

    $13.2M
    $21.0M
    $16.5M
    $15.1M
    $26.8M
    $14.7M

    $17.9M on average over these six years? He could be 27% less productive here and still earn the money.
    Last edited by bagwell368; 12-05-2012 at 12:50 PM.
    I am not a con artist! I am a businessman! I have a big brain and I'm good at making deals! People are just jealous of my BIG BRAIN! BAD!

    Guess who? The future X-Presdent...

  10. #190
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    I've made peace with this signing, hoping for the best. New sig!

  11. #191
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    Honestly everyone hating on this signing isn't thinking about it in the right way. Worst case scenerio, he flops.. so what? We have the money now... Best Case scenerio the guy repeats 2011 and becomes vital to the Red Sox team and we get a steal on him.


    lol, small kid got tripped by a tuba player

  12. #192
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    I'm perfectly with the player and the signing, I just think 3 years was a year too much.

  13. #193
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    After looking at it I like the victorino signing. 1 thing I really like is he played in Philly and did well there. I think he'll be fine.
    FIGHT OWENS FIGHT
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  14. #194
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    Farrell has talked about playing an aggressive style of game this year (including base stealing), but then I realized we have no speed besides Ells and Ciriaco.

    Then we get the Flyin' Hawaiian, who swiped 39 bags last year. Ells might be on his way out now, though.

  15. #195
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    Quote Originally Posted by BostonSports96 View Post
    Farrell has talked about playing an aggressive style of game this year (including base stealing), but then I realized we have no speed besides Ells and Ciriaco.

    Then we get the Flyin' Hawaiian, who swiped 39 bags last year. Ells might be on his way out now, though.
    Iglesias and Kalish have above average speed. Pedroia is about average but is a good baserunner, and the same will be said for Bradley.

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